Ep. 109: Why You Should Fear Takeovers

Richard: All right, Lauren, we started. Welcome back to the Room 77 podcast show.

Lauren: The only podcast without video in 2026.

Richard: Yeah, it is, it is true. And that is all going to change very, very soon because soon we're not even going to have audio. So, uh, today what we're going to talk about is fear, fear, trepidations, and what makes people so scared of parties, takeovers, groups, gatherings. Basically, it's the lunch table fear, this thing that we had ever since we were in school, and we walk in and we're like, where am I going to sit?

Lauren: I didn't know anyone at lunch A or B. I got lunch B. I had

Richard: periods.

Lauren: Yeah, we called our lunches A and B or something. I had periods. Too, but like lunch

Richard: when you had your first period?

Lauren: Oh, I don't know. I like 17. I was a late bloomer on everything.

Richard: Did you have your period in high school in the

Lauren: middle

Richard: class?

Lauren: I don't know, but you know what I did do was so manipulative as a child. I remember my friends starting their periods and I was like, they would be like, oh, I think I've started my period, and they get to leave class and go to the bathroom. I

Richard: doing it in every class

Lauren: like 6th

Richard: grade my period again. I don't know.

Lauren: I think I just, I think I started my period. I need to go to the bathroom and

Richard: check. Lauren, this is the 4th time you've gotten your period this month. Well,

Lauren: I don't know if it started, but it feels like it did. I need to go check so I don't myself. And they were getting out of class. I did that because I was too scared to skip class. So I needed to just make up some that's too much horrible child,

Richard: horrible and disgusting at the same time. When you came back in, did you look at your teacher and we're like, No, I'm good.

Lauren: Thumbs

Richard: down, but would you say it to a man?

Lauren: I don't remember.

Richard: Like, could you say it to if it was a guy teacher, you'd be like, hey, or whatever his name is, I think, I think my period's coming.

Lauren: I don't remember that part. I think I just remember doing it once because it was like I wasn't a child who lied and it stuck with me this whole time all these years and I'm letting it out now because I feel so guilty for trying it.

Richard: You're free now. I'm sure. I'm sure much worse has been done by other children. Yeah,

Lauren: they didn't even go to class. At least I went and tried to get out of class.

Richard: I think it'd be better if it was a guy. Like if it was a guy and a teenager came up to me and was like, um, Mr. Richard, I think I started my period. I'd be like, just get out, go home. Don't even get near me. Come back in 26 days. I don't know. I don't know how long it lasts. I don't even know what to tell you. Hello everyone. There is a lot of ways that you can support us, but the three best ways are this travel, going to our event, and becoming a member. The first, travel.

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Richard: the. All right, well, moving on to other things. We are going to talk specifically about periods of our lives, periods of fear and who we are as people, but not that deep, about the lifestyle. I had heard this comedian, Josh Johnson say adults or kids, basically they just haven't died, which is kind of true. We're the ones that made it, but we haven't really changed all that much. And I find that true. And I've been saying it since this podcast started back in 1987.

Lauren: So lunch table fear is legit.

Richard: This has to do with the whole dynamic of people going places, whether they go to a party, whether they go to a club, where they go to a resort, where they go to a takeup, and what those bottlenecks are for those people. We talked to a few couples. The first thing that we ever, ever went to that we traveled for. It was a takeover in uh Baja Ser in uh Mexico. We were really young at that point. We had no fear whatsoever. We didn't know. We didn't even know what a takeover was. We just were like, Oh, we're going to this hotel where there's people are gonna be having a party. It wasn't about clothing option. It wasn't about, it was just like friends told us to go, to go, and we, we paid for it, and we're like, All right, see you there. That's kind of how it was. I'm still a little bit confounded as to how many fears still exist inside adult human beings when they're like, oh, we want to go to this place, but just, just go, just go like what's, what's gonna happen? I don't want anybody to think this has anything to do with selling the rest of Flirt

Lauren: because it doesn't. No, I wouldn't that. Be like so self-serving

Richard: even though there's less than 15 places left. And if you don't go, you're going to miss out. What is the date

Lauren: that would be if you were thinking of it, it would be the 15th through the 20th, but the Super Bowl is on the 14th, so we're going to have a Super Bowl party the night before

Richard: I want people to think about the Super Bowl party we're having before.

Lauren: I mean, because it would be like, oh, that's so crazy. You're on the roof. What? In a heated pool

Richard: with a giant giant television television screen that is like 25 ft high. I don't want people to think this, that that's why we're doing this. It would be disingenuous the same way when you were in school telling teachers that you were having your period, and I don't want to be like that.

Lauren: No, because that's not who we are.

Richard: Speaking of disingenuous, I have this really good friend. And, and I want to talk about his app because I want people to help him get money. Yeah, because he deserves it and he's a hard worker and he's a good person and the app is really useful and the app is really good, especially now we just talked about this event that everybody should be going to. I have to unpack. All of these boxes and all of this literal crap from the event and I'm doing lights right now so I just had to go set up and find the cords. What I did was I marked all the boxes with tape. I put cables and lights. The problem is, is every box has cables, lights

Lauren: on the duct tape. I know

Richard: cables, lights, so I still have to go through every freaking one. They all look the same.

Lauren: You don't know what lights you have. You actually just bought new cars because you weren't even sure what you had.

Richard: Yeah, he made this app called Inventory for All. It's on the iPhone. It's in the iPhone store, iPhone store, Apple, Apple Store. It's in the App Store. Get

Lauren: with the program,

Richard: Richard. It's on, it's in Atari. I don't know where you get, where you get stuff. You could tell them how it works because you use it for your whore clothes, but you take photos of stuff. I haven't used it yet, but you take photos of stuff and Then later on, you're able to say, hey, self, this is where your shit is, right?

Lauren: What do I own? Yeah, so I use it for costumes. I put in different categories like Richard's tops, Lauren's tops, accessory shoes, and you just take a photo of what you have. You can put in all like if you want to identify exactly what it is and the price and all that

Richard: ho, extra hoary, however you want to categorize it.

Lauren: Yeah, and then you type in like crop top and it pulls up all of Richard's.

Richard: Crop tops. Yeah, you could even categorize if it's expensive stuff

Lauren: by brand and category and then anything that you put in the notes to describe it. That's all searchable. And then what it tells you is when you click on whatever you want, it tells you where to find it. Like it's in your garment bag in the basement.

Richard: It's in the basement next to the dead body.

Lauren: Thank you,

Richard: Richard. Well, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to make it dark. I'm just trying to make it realistic. Let's be honest, the actual, I think, use of this is supposed to be for insurance, but

Lauren: we have firewares. What did I own? That's

Richard: what this is like. Look, if you were normal people, what you would do is you would take all of your stuff and gather it together and be like, this is my expensive watch. This is my computers, my solid gold cock ring, like all of the things that you have, and then you have a. Record of them for your insurance company,

Lauren: right? They ask you, they say, what's the value of your stuff? And then

Richard: they say, prove it, you

Lauren: liar. Yeah, and you're like, Oh, I have a photo right here next to Richard's crop tops,

Richard: right? That being said, that's not what we use it for. No,

Lauren: I use it for my clothes. And so you could go to the App Store and get it. You can try it out for free and put in 10 items, and that costs you nothing. However, I'm a pro member because it's 20, it's like 30 bucks a year, and I put in. So many costumes and it helps me plan for the next thing.

Richard: Inventory for all. When you're there scrolling on your phone and you've downloaded your 15th porn app, just go down inventory for all. It'll take you 5 seconds and go take some photos of stuff. It's up to you. It's your new hobby. You're welcome. Alright, now it's enough commercials, back to the show. This is what we did as far as fears, anxieties. Listen closely. We went out, we reached out to. People that are going to our takeover the sin, which is happening right now. Right now, while you're listening to this, we're having a party, or maybe you waited and we're having Christmas. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know what your schedule is. So, uh, we talked to a lot of people. We're like, what were your hesitations? A lot oddly enough, we got a lot of answers. Most of them lined up, which I thought they would. You

Lauren: feel like there's only a few real hurdlenecks,

Richard: hurdlenecks.

Lauren: Bottlenecks or hurdles.

Richard: I bought, I bought you a hurdleneck for Christmas last year. You never wear it. I've never seen

Lauren: it. It's so, so sexy. OK, anyway, everyone falls. Hit me with it. Oh God. All right, well, these are people who've never been to a takeover before, or is it just who are these people?

Richard: These are people that have never ever been to any takeover.

Lauren: Oh

Richard: God, at all.

Lauren: How do they even exist at this age?

Richard: It was actually hard to find.

Lauren: Yeah,

Richard: we're going to do a little role playing for sure. How can we not? But first, I want to get through what the fears were. We asked, the moment you decide what was the hesitancy, what was any sort of reluctance you had, what changed your mind? What would you guess that the number one answer?

Lauren: Um, cli clicky.

Richard: That was the first, that was the number one. That's the one that, so a lot of people said that they were afraid that this has been going on for so long now that everybody already knew each other and because everybody already knew each other that nobody would talk to them because it already sort of.

Lauren: Outsider,

Richard: what do you think number 2 was, because there's really, there's really only 33, and then the 4th doesn't really count. It counts, but it doesn't count. What was, what do you think number 2 was?

Lauren: I wasn't expecting to be on the spot, Richard. Well, here you are. That 5 nights is too

Richard: long, too much partying.

Lauren: It's so good. I honestly, I did not look at your, at your survey.

Richard: I know you didn't because I have it under a password. Too much partying and no place to hide. Too much socializing. That was number 2. Will there be a place for us to just go away and hide

Lauren: and have some just couples time

Richard: just our own time. I don't want to deal with you people anymore. I just, I feel obligated to. Hang out and I just want

Lauren: to, oh man, they just don't know they don't even know.

Richard: All right, this is, this is number 3 and then the last one, like I said, the 4th 1 doesn't really count. What do you think you already got, you already got almost all of it right, so you got a pass and grade. Is

Lauren: it hard to get to East La Mujeres? Oh

Richard: my God, that's so wrong. God, you suck at this. Oh, so stupid,

Lauren: stupid, stupid, stupid.

Richard: No, I think you're going to kick yourself for this one though.

Lauren: Something about clothing optional. No,

Richard: are people too aggressive? Because you know

Lauren: this already. I do. I've answered that before.

Richard: Here's some quotes. We weren't hesitant about takeovers. We simply didn't know what they were. Once we learned more and decided to go, our only real concern was. Whether things might get out of control, we agreed that if anything felt too intense, we could always head back to our room and take a breather somewhere else. This isn't an, uh, this is a legitimate concern. It's not like you can say to somebody blanket statement, oh, this will never happen anywhere, but that is not our event.

Lauren: People used to ask that about desire and our event is, it's literally along the lines of desire. We sort of modeled it. Everything we loved about it and then added our own special sauce. People are very social and everyone likes to get to know each other and that's 90% of it. And then what happens usually happens behind closed doors and you just don't ever see anything, which is exactly what happens

Richard: that's the part. That's the part that confuses me a little bit is I've never been to a takeover that has been aggressive, super aggressive. I've been to some that have been cliquey.

Lauren: Absolutely.

Richard: I've never really been to a place that's been super aggressive where I've been like, I'm going to get raped at any second or you're going to get raped. I've never been in that type of environment, so I don't, I've never experienced that. So it's hard for me to to speak

Lauren: on. I think it's just a, I think it's a fear that people make up before they go anywhere because people used to ask us that when we worked at Desire. They would ask us the same thing. Yeah,

Richard: I wish they'd be more aggressive, to be honest with you. People think that they're going to show up and it's a giant orgy.

Lauren: They think that we're like the the professional swinger.

Richard: Somebody actually used those words. They use the words, you guys are like the pros. So, and we're just in the beginning stages, so we don't know if we would fit in in that thing. And here's the weird thing is like that. Statement couldn't be further from the from the truth. Anybody who's been with us knows we have no idea what we're doing. We're the worst in bed, even with just one another. We're so awkward and stupid

Lauren: and so not aggressive. We're like, Do you want to, or do you want to just go to bed? Yeah,

Richard: we just, do you want to take a nap instead, and I'll just, yeah,

Lauren: let's just sex later.

Richard: Let's just watch Netflix. Fourth one that doesn't really count was the bottleneck was it's a fixed date. It's hard to go because they're like, oh, these are the times that we can go and, and uh there's nothing can't get off work. There's nothing we can do about that except tell you fix your life.

Lauren: Yeah, I mean can't figure it out. By now that's on you.

Richard: It's not your fault, but we are judging you

Lauren: for a little bit. We are, yeah,

Richard: going back to that lunchroom thing because that's really what is scary.

Lauren: Sometimes I still have the nightmare.

Richard: Do you have a nightmare that you are trying to find a table and getting your fake period at the same time?

Lauren: No, never had that one.

Richard: Did you go as far as like putting anything on your clothes so you're like fake spotting like Oh my God, Mr. Jenkins, look, look, Mr. Jenkins, I have spots all over my white pants. It was so disgusting. So that gross. It wasn't that every class. Oh my God, yeah,

Lauren: because then you got to wear ketchup on your white pants the rest of the day,

Richard: Mrs. Jason, look at my vagina. Just the first. Is this normal? My mother didn't die. Anything. Nobody taught me anything. They're like,

Lauren: Did you cut an artery or what?

Richard: And no one will sit with me at the lunch table, yeah, because you're covered in fucking ketchup.

Lauren: Weird, weird child,

Richard: I know what you're doing, Lauren. Go sit down, fucking weirdo. Well, now I'm gonna do like if you had to come in and I'm your guidance counselor, but you're talking about a party like you don't fit in with the other kids. People are being too aggressive and Um, you just can't, um, you just can't take all of the, the socializing. There's just too much socializing, too much stuff going on on the playground, and you, it feels just overwhelming to you. OK, so if you want to start, I will be, I will be your guidance

Lauren: counselor. OK. Do I call you Mr. something, or do I just call you like,

Richard: no, I'm not a doctor. I wear khakis. No, I'm not a coach. I wear glasses, but I still, I'm still a little bit unshaven. I'm divorced.

Lauren: Do you have a dad bod or like you wear, you still work out. It

Richard: doesn't matter. You're in high school. So I'm just giving you my backstory. Divorced. I have one kid, but I don't have full custody. OK. My name is, my name is Mr. Terry.

Lauren: Mr. Terry. Hey, Mr. Terry.

Richard: Hi, Lauren. Come on, sit, sit down Mr. Terry also stutters.

Lauren: He has a stutter. So Lauren,

Richard: come on, sit down, sit down. What is, what can I help you with today? What, what's going on? Do you have some issues that you need to discuss?

Lauren: Yeah, well, I, it's not like I start my period. It's not that, but I do.

Richard: Yeah, I heard, I heard you, uh, I heard you, I heard you're still waiting,

Lauren: but it's, it's

Richard: coming. I heard you keep checking. Don't worry, it's, it's coming.

Lauren: I feel like it's coming.

Richard: OK, I heard. All right, Lauren, it's about that time again. Time to talk about bikini addiction. First, I know everybody's been waiting. Who won? Which color won?

Lauren: It's basically a tie. You guys are so addicted you can't even choose one. So

Richard: this just goes to show you, you're so addicted. You bought all of the things. Now they're gonna have to make all of the things. I know it's an anticlimactic ending, but Lauren is used to that. All right, but while we were talking about this, one of the things that we wanted to discuss with everybody is for the longest time, Room 77 always had a handbook about how to become a swing. It's a very short book. Page one, rule one, buy and or build a hot tub. That's the end of the book. That's it. That's the only rule we have. If you want to start, you need to get a jacuzzi and or hot tub. I don't know what the difference between a jacuzzi and a hot tub is. This is for all intents and purposes. Just call it a hot tub.

Lauren: So say it's the age you are. Do, do I

Richard: say jacuzzi? I think

Lauren: jacuzzi sounds more like modern hot tub sounds like what we called it in the

Richard: 80s. Let me change it. Get a jet pack. We. I think that after many years and years and years, it's time to update our book. Step 2, get a bikini addiction bikini. And here's why this is so obvious. Once you have just part one of

Lauren: that plan the jacuzzi, it's filled with water. You have the people over, right?

Richard: But it can all fall apart after that. What if it's the first date? You don't want to get naked? No,

Lauren: you can't jump in. Yeah,

Richard: you can't just sometimes it's like, oh, this is scary. I don't want to get undressed. He's everything, right? It's, it's weird. So it's like, and you're, or, or maybe you're just trying to seduce. Your vanilla neighbors, which happens all the time, all the time, right? Step two is get a bikini addiction bikini, and you get every different version for every predicament that you may be in, from hoary to that neighbor that's just on the edge. Oh, you look good in that bikini. Thanks.

Lauren: Yeah, you want to come over? So

Richard: what are you guys into? That's scrunchback talk or

Lauren: rhinestone

Richard: tea talk. Rhinestone tea talk is who wants a BJ.

Lauren: Oh my tops are coming off

Richard: already. Yeah, so sometimes just having a hot tub, it's just not enough, but by combining the two of one of those jet baths and a bikini addiction, you become unstoppable as a beginning swinger. Bikini addiction and hot tub. Where do they go?

Lauren: I'll put it in the show notes. As always, you can go to bikiniaddiction.com and always save 10% with our code room 77. Well, I surprised you this weekend with a little something.

Richard: You did. It started with the, the cush cube, which I'm starting to call the tush cube. Because the kush cube means I'm getting, I'm getting anal, a

Lauren: little tush. Yeah,

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Richard: That's great because I'm a little on the spectrum. They have a lot of stuff over there. It's a product that we highly recommend. It really works. We really enjoy it. We want you to enjoy it. We also want you to enjoy all your holes.

Lauren: How do they get it? The link in the show notes, we'll put it down there for you. Use our code room 77 to save 10%. No, so it's just this, it's the first week of school and You're new here. Yeah, and I'm new and I'm afraid, thanks, Mr. Terry. I'm afraid that like I don't know anyone in my homeroom and when I go to lunch, I'm not going to know anyone either. And I don't know where to sit if I don't know anybody. Is there like a section where the misfits go or like what do I do? Because I'll just go hide by my locker in a vending machine. Awesome. hall.

Richard: Is this how you normally talk? Yeah, that's some of the problem. Like, maybe not talk like that. You know what I mean, because maybe people will find you annoying and regardless of what school you're at, they just don't want to be around you because you talk with a stream of thought.

Lauren: Never let them talk,

Richard: right? OK. Like in your other school, when people weren't getting along with you, did you let the boys touch you? How do you usually approach people?

Lauren: I'm not very outgoing, so I just,

Richard: you wait for people to you.

Lauren: I just, yeah, someone will wave and say, you can sit here, I'd be like, OK, otherwise I'll just hide.

Richard: If you were in your old school, how did you talk to people there? Well,

Lauren: they knew me already,

Richard: but when you first started. How did you meet people?

Lauren: I don't know. I guess I used to. I don't remember Dr. Terry.

Richard: Well, I would imagine you had a first day there too, right? And you probably met people and you started talking to them. And then now you just know them and they were your friends. And now you moved here. You moved to Gary.

Lauren: Scary. Oh

Richard: yeah, yeah, yeah. You moved and it's scary. Yeah, you moved here because your father lost his job and your mom was arrested. We all read the scandal, Lauren, but I would imagine that at some point everybody had a first day somewhere. This is true, right? OK. So I just think that first days anywhere are scary,

Lauren: and I'm not the only one that's going to be arriving at lunch on the first day. There's other people.

Richard: We have so many new students this year. None of them have faked their period. I just want to let you know.

Lauren: When I go to to like homeroom, is everyone going to be really aggressive and like mean to me? And is everyone in the school really mean and bullies and aggressive?

Richard: Is that something you heard?

Lauren: Yes.

Richard: Oh,

Lauren: it's my fear.

Richard: Oh, you heard that they're they're they're not aggressive. I think maybe your fear is taking over and maybe what you're doing is. You're taking the worst case scenario of a situation where you would be incredibly uncomfortable, where you're feeling incredibly vulnerable and you're creating a scenario in your head that probably doesn't really exist because the truth is, is you're not talking to anybody already. How aggressive could they be if you already found a place to hide. Already, then you can surely back away to where you are now, right? Yeah, it's true. I think that maybe you're creating something in your head that makes it easier for you to not talk to people or to not go to the school. OK. You don't like socializing.

Lauren: Yeah, it's just like sometimes I just need to go be by myself.

Richard: Listen, every school needs a weird kid. Lauren, that's what, that's why you're here

Lauren: art class, because no one talks to you. It's just, you

Richard: could be this school's weird kid, you know what I mean? You don't talk. You just stay in a corner and you don't talk to anybody. Nobody's really judging you. Nobody's looking at you going, Oh, that girl's really weird. They're looking at you going, Oh, that's the weird kid. That's as far as the thought process goes. I don't want you to think they're sitting over there talking about you all day, all night, saying. Bad things about you. They're not. The worst thing that they're doing is not thinking about you at all. You seem like you're avoiding them more than they're avoiding you, and you're living in a world where you think everybody who really isn't talking to you is at the same time thinking about you. And those two things don't really happen at the same time. But if you're out of sight, you're probably out of mind. And this is what we call a double-edged sword, right, because you don't want people to think badly of you, but you also don't want to be in the room. So you think, well, I'll hide, but then I start to build these scenarios in my head.

Lauren: Maybe it's better if I just talk to people a little bit.

Richard: I think you need to leave school. I feel like learning at school

Lauren: is good for you.

Richard: Yeah, homeschooling, that is a great idea for you. Like, I'm usually not for child slave labor, but in this instance, you look really strong.

Lauren: All right, thanks, Sister Terry. Have a good day.

Richard: You're very welcome, Lauren. I'm looking forward to you getting that period. And I wish you luck with that when it comes.

Lauren: Wait, oh my God, I think I need to go check. I don't

Richard: think you had it. I don't think you're a woman today. Thank you, Lauren.

Lauren: Thank you.

Richard: I understand the bottleneck of the takeover. People won't be clicking. I can't say that it's not a valid fear because it is valid, especially with certain groups. Certain groups just roll like that. It's just, it's just how they are. There are a lot of groups that become a member and be. Granted access and I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing because it makes you feel like, well, I'm part of a group now because I was, I was vetted. But then what happens when you show up at that vetted group and everybody shuns you? I feel worse because I feel like I paid a premium to be a part of the cult club and I just signed up to be a part of ass. as opposed to just going to take over and go, they're not my people. That's it. I move on. Finding a place that had too much socializing, this is something that we connect to very much so. We always make sure that we have a place that we can go, that we can hide, that we can just go take a nap and just unplug. This is something that we, we know, we understand, and is real. That's a real thing. Many, many people have invited us on a groove cruise. And the answer is, and will always be. No fucking way.

Lauren: It's just way too if you're

Richard: that person. It sounds like so much fun. There's the thing that sometimes people don't think about as far as being with the same group of people for the same 5 days, which can sound scary, but at the same time works in your benefit, then it does than not. We've done the resorts thing. I mean, you could explain what it's like being at a resort. Let's say Tuesday through Saturday, what that feeling is like.

Lauren: Well, there's people who you run into and you're like, Oh my God. And they're like, we leave tomorrow and you're like, my motherfucker.

Richard: It literally just happened in the lobby of one of the last times we were at Desire. And we were checking in. We're looking forward to the trip and somebody said hi to us and they were at the check-in desk. And I looked at them and I was like, wow, they're really attractive, right? There was some a little bit of banter. We finished checking in. They finished whatever they were doing. He got up and came over and he started talking to me. And I said, Are you guys checking in? He was like, we're actually just checking out. I'm like, motherfucker. We didn't click with anybody for the rest of the time we were there and I was like that was it.

Lauren: That was the couple and we picked

Richard: the wrong. We should have just laid on the couch right there. Let's go in the lobby. That was our chance.

Lauren: We would have been the aggressive couple, but I don't know, but you didn't finish your thought about 5 days with the same people. I didn't. No,

Richard: it's a good thing.

Lauren: OK. All I was going to say is at the beginning, you see people sitting by themselves and then by day 3 or day 2, even sometimes you'll see the tables start to get bigger and bigger and it's actually heartwarming. Yeah, and

Richard: nobody feels a ticking clock. Sometimes we've all been in those situations, maybe not all, but we've been in those situations where you're like, I've been talking to this couple, but I am also talking to this couple. And I know this couple is leaving tomorrow and I know that couples not leaving for 3 days. So I have to work on this couple. That's very stressful. That's doing logistics at a swingers' resort.

Lauren: You just want to be on vacation and

Richard: at the same time, you're at risk of insulting the couple that's on a different schedule than you. So it's like you're trying to work secretly, but not secretly. Like, I'm gonna put you on the back burner, but I don't want you to know that you're feel like you're on the back burner. But I am putting on the back burner. I hope you're here in 3 days,

Lauren: and I hope someone else doesn't snatch you, but

Richard: this ticket is up next because they've been sitting for a while, and, uh, they just met them today. They gotta eat because they're out of here. They got an appointment after this, and they gotta go, so I gotta get this order up. You guys, uh, have an appetizer. More bread. In contrast, compare and contrast so we can do science. What are the things at desire when when you're booking the travel where they can go that helps us out in so many ways,

Lauren: supports the podcast and costs people

Richard: nothing and helps me sleep at night. I care about my sleep, book travel through Lauren.

Lauren: That's right. People often ask what, like they'll say, what time of year is good to go. So they could be asking, what is the weather and when is it good? Or they could be asking, when is the right week to choose that hot people or people that are X amount of years, whichever those people are, they want exactly to be around their people. The truth is, I'm, I don't have a magic ball. I do have weather statistics that I can help you with and tell you when the Sargasso is going to be here, but I cannot tell you when the perfect week is.

Richard: When is a good time to go? And that's a really common question. It covers so many things like for what?

Lauren: I don't know

Richard: during hot people week. Is that what you mean? Because there's, there's 4 days in June that all the hot people go. We, we see a lot of times on the posts down on here on Facebook because it's a very touristy town and so we're in the local groups and within the local groups there's also a lot of tourists. There's more tourists in the local group than actually live here. It's so stupid. It's like there's more people that post and comment that don't even live here than than people that live here. But one of the questions that always gnaws at me, does anybody know what the sarcasso will be like in two weeks when I get down there?

Lauren: Yes, yes, we do. Yes,

Richard: Roger, we, we all, we all follow the currents. We have figured it out and have not told the government how to control it.

Lauren: Yeah, there's that and there's also people saying which one is, which resort is right for me or which one is, will I fit in more? And that could be for two reasons either. Either they like to party more or they want a more of a quiet resort.

Richard: But what they don't want to ask is, are the people ugly and old? That's what they're asking sometimes. And then if you give them an answer, like, well, you know, I mean, it's like, it's a little more upbeat. There than it is there, then sometimes they'll stop. Well, I heard that. Yeah, that's true. I'm not, I'm not saying there's anything necessarily wrong, wrong with that. People gravitate to the age group they want. There's nothing wrong with that. But I am here as an advisor to humanity and the everyman and the everyman to remind you that sometimes a younger individual looks like a pile of shit. Just gotta get that off of my chest. It's about chance. A bunch of group of 35 year olds who looks like what? Fuck, they, they look like they just stepped off the ugly bus. Fuck. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't tell you that part. They're from the we're ashamed we're us group.

Lauren: Uh, Speaking of groups, I have heard that fear as well. We don't want to go when there's a group and that falls in the same cliquey part.

Richard: It doesn't though. No, they do feel like, so it's a combination of both. They feel like, oh, there's a group here of let's say 50 people. I'm not going to be a part of that group.

Lauren: So it makes my numbers lower.

Richard: It just lowered my numbers by

Lauren: 50%.

Richard: I get it. I don't want to be a part of that. I want to be there when the numbers are all in my favor. I have 100 and something, not 50 something,

Lauren: right? Everyone's on the same playing field for that reason.

Richard: Not that that's not true. I think people don't enjoy groups being in places, but there's also a feeling of being shorted, when I go there and I have all of these people to choose from and all of these people to meet and all these possibilities, and now I, now it's been cut in half because all of these people know each other. I feel shorted, so it's, it's

Lauren: both. It is. You're very

Richard: welcome. Depending on who that group is. They can make people feel like shit. We went to a birthday party at Desire with, I think, 14 couples. I felt like absolute shit.

Lauren: I did. You

Richard: were inside the I was inside the bubble,

Lauren: and you were trying, you went out of your way to

Richard: try to not be those people. Our group didn't. I know how our group looked.

Lauren: They're just oblivious to

Richard: the. They're oblivious. They weren't assholes, but they were oblivious to. How they, how they were coming across. So what have we learned?

Lauren: We're

Richard: all

Lauren: full of fears. We've learned that there's a lot that can live in our heads. We've learned that our childhood fears are morphed into similar situations in adulthood, and they can certainly be applied to lifestyle situations that are legit, but don't have to be. We've also learned that Lauren Books Travel and flirt has. Fewer than 15 rooms left.

Richard: We have learned all of that stuff. We make up a lot of these fears in our head. These, these images that we, we put in our head are the scariest thing. They're possibly the scariest thing.

Lauren: What's going to end up happening?

Richard: I don't want to say that some of the fears aren't legit, where it's like some clicking-ish may happen. I've seen wicked clicking-ish, clicking-ish, clicking-ish, clique-ish

Lauren: like my hurdle neck. Just go on.

Richard: But I've seen people left alone, ignored at desire where groups of people are socializing and other people are just left stranded and no one is, no one is speaking to them. That's why I say they're legitimate because it happens everywhere too much, too aggressive, not at ours, not, not at ours, not even a little bit. I've never been to a place in this 20 something years. I have walked into a place and then walked out and been like, well, that was quite aggressive.

Lauren: I hadn't even dropped my bags and 10 people just fill up my tits,

Richard: right? And, and mind you, we just went to Captage. Even in that club, I still didn't walk. I wanted to walk out and be like, I got groped by everyone. I even said to you, you're getting raped tonight, and it didn't happen. So we've been to some places still hasn't happened. I'm still sort of waiting for that to happen. That's what we learned. Good luck with your menstrual cycle. And Mr. Terry has to go to a custody battle right now. Yeah. So,

Lauren: well, good luck with that, Mr. Terry.

Richard: You're very welcome with that. Uh, I mean, thank you.

Lauren: You're a great counselor.

Richard: So if you're still paying attention, if you're still here listening, which I doubt it, like one

Lauren: person. It's the friend with the app. Hey man,

Richard: thanks for making it this far. Remember, if you're listening, just remember we didn't do this episode to try to sell you on flirt, even though, even though there's less than 15 spots left in a Super Bowl party right before, you could meet the inventor of this fantastic app. He'll be. You'll probably have sex with someone. This was not to try to sell

Lauren: you or push or push. This

Richard: wasn't in a commercial.

Lauren: Exactly. Who would do that a whole 30 hour? How much?

Richard: It felt like 30 hours. That's why people turned it off. All right, everyone, we'll talk to you next time. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to go leave a positive review.

Lauren: For more information, go to room 77life.com. Thanks for

Richard: stopping by room 77. We had a blast. Now get your clothes and get out.