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Episode 20 · May 31, 2019 · 1:02:26

Ep. 20: Raging Homoerotic Hormones and On Call with the Doctor

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  1. Is it okay to “penis stare” and if so, for how long can I look? Also, an accurate description of how guys talk in a locker room about their junk.
  2. We make up for skipping someone in the workshop by making them feel incredibly uncomfortable. Or maybe it was because hotel maintenance was watching us from the bathroom.
  3. We talk to Dr. Jeff about Hormone Replacement Therapy, Botox, filler, and “Vanity” in the lifestyle.
  4. Project Airtight has arrived. Did it end well?

Rapid-fire interviews from Desire guests on body piercings, stages of erect penises, and creating a “Half-Fluffed” pill.

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This podcast contains explicit content, language, and sexual situations. It is intended for adults 18 years of age and older. These thoughts and opinions expressed are not those of any specific employer, group, or individual. Fed up with the rat race, we decided to sell everything and move to Cancun, Mexico.

Now. We do what we love. Work, party, and play at the Desire resorts. After 16 years in the lifestyle, we thought we saw it all.

We were so wrong, so wrong. Oh my God, so wrong. Now we want to share the fun that we get to have every day. So come to room 77.

Let's play. All right, Lauren, we've started. We have a lot of stuff to cover, and I don't think we have enough time. I gotta be honest, a lot of this stuff is, you're probably not gonna hear it, but you don't know that because it won't be here.

We said that this month was gonna be incredibly hard. I already quit. I quit. I'm out.

I know what the solution is. Do you hear? You know what the solution is? No more friends.

That's extreme. It's necessary is what it is. I am tired. I'm out.

We got two weeks in, and, uh, it started off with our really good friends Ed and Sarah coming in, and they visited. They're lucky, right, because they got the fresh, we were ready to be here fresh at the beginning of the month, hung out with Sarah and Ed. We talk about Project Runway. No, we talk about.

Uh, Sarah, Ed, me and you and Tim Gunn, make it work. No, so we're, we're talking about Project Yellowbound and how stupid we are. Brilliant idea, great reaction, but we went into this thing and we never really thought about really agreed perspective. We're just like, you know, booked a rides and we want to do this thing, so we never looked at the room.

There are no rooms left. Had we come at it from agreed. Perspective, you think that that would have made the difference, yeah, because then we would have looked to see how many rooms were available, so we never looked. We think, oh, maybe one person show.

What are the dates? The dates are the 5th through the 12th at Pearl November, November, yes, November. Project Yellow Band. So if you've never been to Desire before, you wanna go.

You can only go on certain days. You still can't. No, but we'll do it again. So we're gonna do something special that month anyway.

Hopefully we'll figure something out. I don't know, but we're gonna try to do special workshops and if you are coming in November and it is your first time, please reach out to us. Let us know that you are on your way because we want to, uh, sort of celebrate that week, the four of us, of you coming there and, and having a good time. We're gonna do it again in May.

May when? May 2020, like 5, no, what May, what day is in May 5th through the 12th again, the same. All right, so May 2020, 5th through 12th. Did we look at, yes, open wide open.

It is, yeah, you know that, yeah, all of May. All right, I check. I'm you're just doing everything on a hunch. Meanwhile, I think that you may have bought me tainted Viagra because I had taken some before and you were like, what is wrong with you?

Your head looks. It's like a tomato. I was like, Oh, you got too much sun today. I'm like, No, I just popped a Viagra, the Viagra that you bought me, you bought me a case.

Yeah, I went hardcore because I'm tired of going to the store. Yeah, so you bought me a case. I'm like, Well, I'll pop one now just to see if it works because I don't care. And, uh, so then we were gonna go to the jacuzzi.

I was like, I don't think that one worked. I'm gonna pop another one. I popped the other one. By the time I put my clothes in the thing, my dick was pointing to the stars.

I'm like, oh no, I can't go in the jacuzzi. My dick's hard. I can't walk now. It looks like I get turned on by cubbyholes or something.

This is weird. Got undressed. I mean, can you imagine that? Like, here I come towards the naked people with my hard penis all by myself, so I'm like, stay with me.

But when I get into the Hot tub, I start getting the real side effects of the drug. I start turning bright red because you get flushed when you, when you take Viagra. So I start talking to a couple like nothing's wrong because now they can't see my hard penis under the water, so I can just talk like nothing's going on. Yeah, uh-huh, yeah, and that's where I'm from.

Oh, you grew up there. That's a really pretty place. My penis is so hard right now. So, but what happens is I feel my face starting to get really hot.

I feel it getting really hot, and I can see them sort of looking at me like, are you OK, ma'am? Now I know they're looking at me and I know what's happening to my face. So now I start getting embarrassed, which makes it even more red, and I just have to walk away from the situation. This is exactly what the conversation sounded like.

Oh yeah, that's really great. I'm gonna go get another. And I walked away. And then you chased after me and you're like, what's wrong?

And I said, Is my face really red? And you're like, Yeah, it's really fucking red. I'm like, they commented, they commented on you. They were like, um, I don't know.

He said he was gonna go get another drink, but he's just staring at the column. You were just staring at the palapa column, waiting to be red. Yeah, I walked over to the column and I was trying to devise a plan. Like, how long will my face be red?

How long can I stand here and order a drink? Is 30 minutes? Is that too much? So I'm just waiting and waiting and waiting.

You walked over and you're like, What are you doing? I'm like, I can't talk to people because I took that, that Viagra. Viagra Now I took 2 of them. So I'm really hard and really red.

We should order a new or it works so good. I'll keep trying it. I wonder if 3, if my head will explode. I don't know.

We'll see. That reminds me, you know what I saw today was a guy with a penis that it wasn't a small penis, but it was a fine penis, but his penis stuck outward. Like its resting position was. Did you see him too?

Yeah, he wasn't hard. Was he hard? I thought, I mean, because sometimes I, I love how I, and I don't know if this is true. I feel like it's appropriate for you to stare longer, but I feel like I have a limited.

Amount of stare time and I have to think it's appropriate for me to stare longer. Well, I feel like a guy would be like, oh yeah, it's just, you know, because he was obviously trying to figure out why mine did like that. Wait, so it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I have to stop this train right now really quick and to clarify. The first part of this is you're saying that you think it is socially at the hotel, socially more acceptable for me to stare at another man's penis for a longer period of time.

Than it is for you to stare at a man's penis. That, that's what you're saying. Absolutely. I have never heard a more ridiculous statement in my life.

You didn't let me finish. I, I had to clarify without conveying that sense of, hey, I'm interested. Wait, is that me or you? That, it's me.

It's anyone saying that. But I feel like a man can get away with looking at another man's penis because you're like, Oh dude, I don't know. Just looking at it like you have a really thick head and I just was trying to make sure you are, but if I look at it, it's like she's checking it out. Well, you are my junk.

You are checking it out. I am right. I'm not always checking it out to jump on board, so either am I. Either am I checking out boobs to jump on board those boobies, right?

But I feel like maybe I'm like, look at those nipples. She's got sparkly stuff all over it. And if I look at nipples and I'm like, Oh my God, you have sparkly stuff all over it, she'd be like. Yeah, you weren't looking at my nipples because you want to get on them.

Let's clarify a few things. Me staring, and I have to use the word staring because that's what you're describing, me staring at another man's penis is not acceptable in many circumstances at that resort. Me just staring in no way, shape, or form is ever really acceptable. I was staring at this one today because it was just confusing to me.

It was just pointing straight out like a wind vane. Yes, that's what I thought when he walked by. I was like, Hi, Wendy. So you're saying that it is not acceptable for me to stare at boobs, but it would be acceptable for you to stare at boobs.

Well, I think from the receiver's point of view, if they saw me staring at their boobs, they wouldn't be like, she's checking my shit out unless I was giving her some sort of look, but I think that. Men automatically assume if I'm staring at their dick that I want some of that. I want them in on the airtight or something. They don't wait for any other nonverbal signal, so I feel like men can look at each other's without being like sexual.

A glance and a look are two different things. But like if you're really looking, like trying to figure out like is that a tattoo or do you have one? Don't ever say, do you have one ball? Um, a tattoo, you can look, but I would never recommend for a man in that environment.

I just wouldn't recommend that. I think it would make another man perhaps feel uncomfortable. However, that being said, I think a man under certain circumstances would feel uncomfortable with a woman staring at his penis. When I was staring at it and got close enough to whisper in his ear.

Hey, are you hard? Or is your penis or is it just point that way? That did get awkward. It was a bit weird.

Yeah, no, I'd say you're off base with that one. Yeah, I just, I figured that since men maybe looked more overtly at women that they could get away with it at men without men receiving it in a sexual way that they would just be like, oh yeah, you're just checking out my junk. I don't know. Like I feel like this happens in the football lockers because you're just like running around and you got this is this is what I think of.

Hey, and Jeff, I'm talking to you. What, what are you doing? Oh sorry man. I was just staring at your cock.

No, I was looking at, it's like you did some manscaping down there, bro. It's from last weekend. Yeah, this sounds like the beginning of gay porn. That's what this sounds like.

Am I naive or is it just stupidity? No, I think men are accepted to be able to stare and gawk and do whatever they want, and whether it's sexual or not, I don't know. There's just a difference there. Women are taught at a very young age, don't stare.

Do not make any overt sexual. Innuendos and it's still instilled in you. Anyway, you saw the cock. You didn't know where it was pointing like that cock.

I have no idea where this story is going. It was a hard story. I know that. Don't make puns.

I don't know. This story wound up being completely flaccid. It does. Maybe I'll ask him on Friday.

This is how this conversation goes. Hey bro, what's up? What's your name? Jeff.

Hey Jeff, Kevin, yo dude, let me ask you something, bro. It's just noticing your cock there and uh hey bro, you hard or is it just like that is it always like that? No, no, Kevin was it yeah, Kevin. Hey Kevin, it's nice to meet you.

Oh, I just shook your penis. Sorry, I thought it was your hand. Oh, please excuse me. Please excuse me.

I didn't mean to do that. No, it's OK, bro. It happens all the time. So, uh, yeah, actually, I appreciate you looking at my junk.

I do. It hasn't happened since I played football. Yeah, I mean, bros hanging out after practice. And I'm like, hey, Jeff, get that maybe hard cocka over here.

Oh my God, it's gonna. I'm gonna have that conversation with him on Friday. Let me know how it goes. I will.

I wanna be an earshot. Oh God. What room are you in? I'm in 3.

What room are you in? 80. What room are you in? 32.

What room are you in? Room 77. When you see a penis that is not in action, sometimes a penis can be in different stages of fluffiness per se. Do you notice as a woman, that person is about 65% fluffed up?

Is that something that you notice? No. Ask each other whether they're a grower or a shower. When you see somebody sort of by the pool, do you say, Oh, he looks larger today?

Um, yeah, I guess I would, but I love that that half fluffy. Listen, if we could all stay half fluffy, we'd all be so, so, so, so happy. I like to fall asleep and just hold the half fluffy. Now if we could find a pill called Half fluffy pill.

I take 2. Is that half fluffiness? Do you know what I'm talking about as far as penis in in different, it's got different days. It does different things, right?

Do you know about different stages of your penis? Do you say, oh, today's a good day? Yes, I can, I can. Tell with him, yes.

All right, well, listen, if we can all as a collective, maybe come up with a half fluff pill and market it, let's all start a kick group and get on that right away. All right, thank you so much, everybody. We really, really appreciate it. Have a great time while you're here.

All right, we are starting. We started. I have my coffee here because in your mug, in my, uh, room 77 mug that was brought to me by a very special someone, we've never had our logo on anything because I'm so like not that person that's like I'm gonna order cute things with things on it and stuff. So now it's on a mug and it's on a shirt.

I was so excited. So anyway, yeah, anyway, I'm gonna sip this coffee, but I'm gonna do it off mic. I'll put a picture up for the Patreon. So here we.

We are back from RM. We came right from RM. We just walked in the door postcoidal with one another and another couple, and yeah. So how was your day first of all there?

Um, I had a great day there. Yeah, I had a really great day. It was a little playmaker I have a crush on came back to work today. Yeah, she hurt her little hand.

What is her name? Marissa. Marissa, Marissa, you know, I dated a girl named Marissa once. You did, yeah, and she was clinically insane.

I actually checked her into Cedars-Sinai Psychiatric Hospital after I was dating her. True story, I do remember that. You remember me telling you, yeah, I do. It's a batshit crazy night.

I can't get into it right now. I know everybody's gonna be like, Richard, tell us, tell us, tell us about Marissa. It was crazy, and I don't mean crazy in like, yeah, now you can't use that word crazy. No, the night was crazy.

She was not crazy. She was clinically insane. So can we use the word crazy if it means I can because I am a stable genius. Let me tell you something.

Yes, let me tell you why. No. Look, look, look, look. It doesn't matter.

I don't care who you voted for. I really don't give a shit who you voted for, but that is so comic genius. I'm gonna break it down to you why it's genius, OK? Both sides of Congress should stop.

Everybody should start laughing, look at one another and go, that was really fucked up, and then get back to hating each other. Here's why I am a stable genius is so funny. You can say both of these words exclusively, and they hold up, right? You can say, how are you feeling?

I'mretty stable. I'm I'm pretty stable right now. Hey, how's he doing? How is he doing?

How's his condition? He's stable. He's stable, right? Hey man, you, you're a little wobbly.

How are you feeling now? I'm stable. Now you can also use the word genius by itself, right? Hey man, that was great.

How'd you do that? I'm a genius. That's how that was genius, right? Hey, how did you know all that stuff?

I'm a genius, right? Words that work in so many different ways by themselves. The comedy comes in when you put them next. To one another, right?

Especially stable genius. OK. This infers immediately that somehow we're always, or sometimes at least dealing with unstable geniuses. Like we're all running into Van Gogh.

Oh, wow, hey, Mr. Van Gogh, that's a really pretty painting. Oh, thank you very much. Also, here's my ear.

So that's like, that's an unstable genius, right? That is somebody who is unstable, but even I think an unstable genius would. Say I'm a genius. I'm also unstable sometimes.

I'm a genius and you put stable in front of it. You've already tipped over now because a genius would never use the word stable in that sentence. So it's like a mirror and it just keeps reflecting off one another. That's why I want it on a shirt just stable genius genius.

I love that so much. And you know what, the entire country should fucking love that together. Let laughter bring us together, man. That is.

That's some funny shit. It is shit. Again, I don't care who you voted for. So tonight I just had sex with your sore vagina.

Oh no, don't bring up my vagina. Why I have to bring up your vagina? Because it was sore. It was broken.

I know, I know, but we did it anyway. We did the sex anyway. I was proud of myself. I lasted longer than like 90 seconds.

Oh come on, you're good. It's all in the mind. It's not in the mind. I'm gonna tell you right now, again, stable genius.

I know this stuff. All right, look. So here's the thing with this couple, right? So we see this couple who's been there for a while now, right?

I know how you feel. Anytime I meet a couple that has piercings, it secretly turns me on. No, like just nipples or like anywhere. If you're sticking metal through any of your parts, it turns me on.

It could be a nose ring, it could be a nose piercing. It could be a clit piercing, a belly. But what about just Prince Albert? It's a start, but I like a little more.

Than that, like a little more jewelry. It makes me a little squeamish. That's what I thought you were gonna say. That's why I was asking.

But from afar I'm like, Oh, rock on. Yeah, that's hot. I don't know why. No, because it's badass.

That's what it means, right? So when a couple, like we meet them, whatever the situation is, and they have piercings together, like one has a nipple piercing, the other one has a nipple piercing, they're sort of in piercing harmony. Yeah, I thought. Same thing that is so funny.

I swear we should that. It was, it was very balanced, and I think even the size of the bar and the nipples was the same. I don't know if I would look badass or look like somebody who's trying to look badass. Yeah, I think we should get them.

Well, I can't because I don't have a pain threshold. It doesn't exist in me. There is no threshold, so I can barely think about getting hair laser removal. It scares me.

It does, to be honest, yeah, but they have like. The numbing cream, it's, you'll be fine. So I, I had my eye on this company, and, and then when we went back to the resort, she wasn't feeling well the second time, right? So we missed her, and we always sort of talked to him.

We saw him in the gym a little bit. We were talking to him. I mean, he was a force of nature, that one. I don't like to talk about bodies, but I mean his was, I couldn't not watch him work out and so much so that I had to grab one of the medicine balls that I was working out with and walk over to his butt and compare.

Which one was rounder? I think it was equal. It was silly. I had sort of a thing for them when I met them, and I'm kind of horny today.

You said, save us a bed. I was like, I can't save you a bed, but if you come late, uh, I'll put you up on our bed. I was really into their energy. I just really had a thing for their energy.

Yeah, they're super sexy together, and I didn't have enough room on the bed. Just so what were you doing if you weren't on the bed? What were you doing? I was teaching the workshop.

I have to teach my children. Just walking around or were you? Standing or oh, I was standing, but I wanted to be down there doing rubbing them, doing that stuff. I couldn't get to them because that, that altar, I call it an altar because it looks like we're gonna sacrifice somebody and I just wanted them to be comfortable.

So I was like, you go jump up there and you do it. So then, because she was supposed to be being worshiped, but she wasn't being worshiped. No, she was not, no sex hands for her, yeah, because I was camote, as they say here. Uh, it's story camote, see, but I was a Pedro, uh, but Pero, uh.

Siempre estoy siempre commotewe, that's the only phrase I can say in this tongue is siempre estoycommotewe, which is I'm always busy, bro, bro, sort of after the workshop I had said, listen, I'm sorry, like I didn't get to get to you. Yeah, we dipped you in just a moment of unstable genius. I was like, I will worship you in your room after this for 20 minutes if you want. That's how bad I feel.

And she was like, fuck yeah, I know, right, because you've really, this is, this is the funny part about you. You're such a sweetheart that you will literally to prevent it from weighing on your brain, you're like, I'm gonna offer this, not thinking that we literally need to come home. Eat dinner and start recording. Stable genius stable genius here.

We're just gonna do 20 minutes in your room. There we go. This is the plan. But deep down this is the couple with all the piercings, so I'm like, I don't care.

I just, I just, I just, I told them I was like we can't stay late in it. This is in and out, boom, boom, boom, boom. I think they like that actually. I mean this is 20 minutes, and then she said only 20 minutes.

I'm like of course she did. I know. She was a vixen. She was.

Oh my God, it's such a good word for her. Yeah, she's just a vixen. The way she looks at you and the way she sort of does that pallet, sultry look, right? She's like Catholic girl that was like naughty.

I don't know what her religion is. Let's just, oh, I was just bringing it into the skin and the hair contrast with the eyes and sexy Protestant girl making fun of me. Such a sexy Baptist. OK, let's stop.

So I'm like, listen, I pull my crap where I'm like, let's just go do this now. It's the best way, Richard. No more chit chat. I'm taking you.

I'm getting you naked, and I'm gonna rub you down with oil. And she's like, lead the way. And I'm like, I don't know what. The room is, so I can't, I can't do that.

But they still let us lead the way. She's like, Where are you going? I'm like, I don't know if you know this. They don't provide us with a, with a horror room here.

We have our own playroom. Yeah, that would be great though. Maybe we should ask for that in our, in our contract that we don't have. Well, we walk out to the room and there's a pool of water.

I mean, the, the ceiling is raining down like the gods are crying, and he's like, oh man, this is a lot of water. And I'm like, yeah, it really is, but also, I don't really care. We all go filter into the room. I don't wanna hear about the water.

I don't wanna think about the water anymore. I don't wanna deal with the water anymore. He goes straight over to the phone and you're like, Who are you calling? Maintenance, they need to know about that leak.

It was at that moment I was like, oh my God, he's so fucking cute. I can't take it. So he gets on the phone with maintenance. I don't know what I'll do.

I'll just get prepared or whatever. I don't know what that means, stretching, calisthenics, right? So he gets off the phone with maintenance, who, by the way, when we ask maintenance to, to come to the disco for a problem, it takes at least 3 days at least, right? He calls maintenance, says, hey, it's like a scene out of the Titanic over here.

All right, you know what, great job. Thumbs up to you. Desire will not sink now. So I lay her down and I start rubbing oil all over her and I'm just sort of doing what I wanted to do to her, and I was like, you're gonna be worshiped.

You come in, and then he, I was like, make him come in and give her what she missed. This is the feeling that she missed in the workshop. Things start to escalate very quickly, right? And she's like, I.

I want him to be worshiped too because he missed it because I was sick. I was like, alright, yeah, well that's something we can do we can negotiate that in call an audible. Let's just do it. So I'm working on her and then we're like, alright, so I, I sort of instruct the two of you to go towards him.

It's like, start worshiping him. So we start sort of like worshiping him behind her sort of and then. Hola maintenance. hola maintenance.

I'm like, you motherfucker, yeah, and no one moves. No, so we all, so I have to get up. You were closest to the door. That's how it works.

I'm like, this isn't even my room. That's how it works. You have to go get the door. Yeah, so I jump up.

Hola, hola. OK, I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming.

Go ahead. So I open the door. Hi. Oh, Louis.

I'm registering all of this in my head, but I'm like, this is not a problem for me. I'm glad they're telling us that they're here. Let this end. Come back to the bed, Lauren, and let's get on with this.

Now, what you don't know is in the interim, I was talking to her and I was like, because he seemed a little bit nervous, because we can be a lot, you know what I mean, which we're not a lot, but we can a lot of. It's a lot of pressure, and there's a couple that they don't play all the time. While you're away, I say, I'm gonna take this opportunity to try to get inside of his head and relax him a little bit more. So I whisper in her, in her ear, what does he like?

Tell me exactly what he likes. And she says his hands like to be touched and rubbed. I thought, all right, she's like that tactile. Difference to him of feeling something different is eternal to him, right?

I love that. So I say, well, all right, so I say to her, me, do you want me to rub his hands? She says, Yeah, right. So I, right, so I grab his hands and now I'm giving him like a hand massage, almost like I'm about to manicure him.

Like I'm just gonna massage his hands a little bit. Are you sitting on the bed? Yeah, I'm, I'm sitting on the bed. So I start like holding his hands down and I'm like, this isn't really, uh, gay.

It's not like I'm rubbing my cock in his hand, right? So now at this moment, I don't know if I heard her correctly. I don't know if she heard me correctly. I sort of turned my head because I'm gonna sort of clarify what's going on or what, like, are you sure me?

Are you sure? And when I turn around, it's you with the maintenance department in the room. So I'm like, what are you doing? And they're like, well, they're in the room.

I'm like, why are they in the room? They're in the room now while I'm giving a man a hand massage naked on a bed with everybody else. And I look at you and I was like, get them out of here. Get him out.

And then she turns to me and she's like, I don't know if he's really into a man massaging his hand. I'm like, Oh, well, obviously I did not understand. I was confused this whole time. This whole time I was confused, but I was just going with it.

Did you just drop his hand when she said that and like, or did you set it down? No, I had already stopped. You had gone to deal. With the maintenance crew that was in the bathroom with a ladder already.

Great timing. Hi guys. Hey, hey Louise, how's it going? Hey, we're naked in here with a bunch of people and, uh, we're about to get really fucking weird.

If you want to set up the ladder in the bathroom, that would be awesome. Just pretend we're not here and, uh, we'll do the same, OK. By the way, how's your sister? I was being super homoerotic in a situation where I shouldn't have been.

So then you come back in, things sort of escalate. Now at this point she's on me and you're on him, and it was all very wonderful. I mean, I was having an amazing time. It was really, I mean she had some oral skills that I enjoyed watching her.

Yeah, she was, she was really good. She's really good. She said, I have an. Moral fixation and I didn't even really believe her after I said that, but no, she does, she really does.

So I was really enjoying watching you with him and I was just like I wanted to make you my little slut. I was like, you'd be my little fucking slut. I need to tell you exactly what to do. And then they started talking a little bit like that, but all the while in the back of my head I'm like, don't do anything gay because I'm already.

Hiding that line of, hey, don't touch my hands, man. She had a, a very sensitive clip, I think because she had a clip piercing. Yeah, of course, that's why, yeah, absolutely. I have to get our listener to understand the positioning here.

So she's on her back and he's doing her missionary and I'm next to her and she is sucking my cock, right? So I'm next to her. He's just going to town on her, right. And I'm getting so turned on.

I'm like leaning into her and she's sucking my cock. He sort of leaned back, right? And I'm in a position where I can lick her clitring while he's fucking, right? I was like, can I lick her clit?

He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still fucking her. And I'm still in the same position, and I start licking her clit ring, and at that very moment, you say to her, suck that cock. And I jump up like a stable genius and say, I'm not sucking his cock.

And she laughed because she knew what I was talking about, obviously, because it was a cock in her mouth and she laughed and he laughed. You were the only one who was in you're like, I'm writing this line, so you were so preoccupied with it that you would, how else would you not literally you started the evening by rubbing his hands. You should have a conversation with your penis because she was down sucking on it and then maybe you would have. It was great, but I didn't put that together.

I didn't, I didn't really put that together. But anyway, it ended fantastically. She came, I think, not from me but from him. You had a broken vagina, so you were, um, I feel like sometimes I should preface and be like, just don't focus on me.

You can't do that. Why? Because then they're like, oh, this is weird. We kind of came back only for you.

She came so hard. From that clit bar, I think she had a bar. You gonna get one? Well, I really, you know, I, I ask around a lot about stuff, and that was one of the things like, I don't know, everyone's really happy with them, but it has to be done in the right spot, like by a good person or something.

So I've thought about asking Doctor Jeff, maybe, yeah, I mean, not to do mine, but to, no, I don't think Doctor Jeff owns or operates a piercing store, maybe in the mall somewhere, just a kiosk, Doctor Jeff's piercings. I don't think he does that. Oh, you know, on the homosexual note, because I'm gonna stay on that and then I'm gonna finish talking about this crap. I was really proud of a guy and a gal in the last workshop that we did at Pearl, because they came to the woman's version, and then they came to the man's version, and she had said to you, what did she say?

I don't know who you're talking about. This is why it's hard being a stable genius. OK, stop with the coffee. I gotta talk faster.

More coffee. More coffee, more coffee, more. I gotta, I gotta fit this in. We gotta, there's a lot of crap.

No, I'm talking about the couple where she was like, Who does Richard rub? 00, OK, OK. On Monday, what did she say to you? And then she came up to me in the pool and she said, um, the reason I'm asking is because I would like my husband to experience the six hands like I.

Experienced it. God bless them, right? They are not the only people who have ever done that. Most people do it in a very sort of subtle way or another way.

But here's why I say God bless you, because when they said that, I say, yes, yes, you should fucking experience it. It's amazing. It's fucking amazing, right? I respect the balls that he has, not only because I was right down there looking at him.

You got a close up while I was rubbing them, but it takes quite a man and a woman and a couple to be in a setting like that and to say, I don't give a shit what anybody around me thinks. I don't care. I want my husband to experience that feeling. That's what I want.

And they weren't like pros or anything. No, they're brand new, just your mild mannered couple, nothing that would. Make them stick out or be like, oh, that's so Jeff and Karen to say that. It's not like that at all.

I just, there's such a respect that I have for, for that, for that, that statement. I don't know, sexy. And speaking of the workshops, what about the workshop? There were a lot of new couples there, but one of them, they ran into us afterwards and they said we didn't know what was gonna happen at the end.

I didn't know Richie was gonna enter me. At the end, Richard comes around and he has sex with all of you, and he was like, I was so focused on her and he felt bad because he didn't know he was supposed to have sex with her and you were like, well, he wasn't supposed to have sex with you do whatever you want. I just left the part out that was like, you can do whatever you want now. Yeah, at the end of the workshop speech, and I loved what you said to him.

You were like. Well, it's at, at the end it's all skate, all skate, all skate, all skate. So if anyone hasn't been to the workshop yet, now you know, hey, I gave a condom to a guy in there today. Yeah, I was like, it was, they were playing at the end of the workshop.

I'm like picking up bottles and he's like, Excuse me, excuse me. Like he's half inside of his wife, girlfriend, I don't know who she was, and he's like, excuse me, and I honestly, I thought he's really thirsty. Oh my God, no, I'll just get him some water. He just wants some water.

Like, can you hand me a bottle of water? Sure I can. But he says, uh, do you, do you supply condoms here? Uh.

No, asshole, I don't supply condoms. What do I look like to you? A fucking clinic? The kind-hearted soul that you are, you walked over to your bag.

So I said, I don't have condoms, and I walk away. I take 3 steps. I walk back and I say, Would you like me to go get one of my own personal condoms? And he says, Yes, I would.

Ow, ouch. So I go back to my bag and it's dark and my bag is buried, and I go into my bag and I dig out one of my condoms and we'll go back to the bed and I lay it gently down on the bed and I say, Here you go. Motherfucker didn't tip us. No tip from that man.

Nope, I took care of his tip and we got no tip back. No tip back. So disrespect, man. I hope you're listening to this, sir.

I hope you enjoyed my condom. I reuse all of them, by the way. They're not even ours. I just collect them.

I go through housekeeping. Oh my God, no. Why did I say that? Because you're disgusting.

You are the example of an unstable genius. Alright, I have to go. Uh, it's good talking to you. That is all.

How do you feel about kinky piercings? Anything? I wanna remind you that man over there has a lot of stuff inside of his body hanging off of it. I am too much of a chicken to get piercings.

Is it something that you find attractive on another human being? And I'm talking about like nipple piercings, clit piercings, belly button piercings. Stuff like that. I just think they're brave.

I feel the same way, but it turns me on a little bit. Do you like piercings? I wasn't at first, but I was talking to a friend, and I thought maybe like nipple piercings together would be kind of a fun thing to do. Don't you think?

Yes, I do. Will you do it while you're here? Are you going to do it on me? I'll go learn.

I'll look at YouTube. Everything's on YouTube. Piercings on on women. Do you, is it something that you enjoy?

She's getting some when she gets home. She is getting one. How do you feel about piercings in general? I used to have a tongue piercing.

You did. That's sexy. I really did for like 20 years. I don't have it anymore.

I don't. I took it out because I got old, but, but as we all tend to do. But the other ones I'm afraid of, the ones you're talking about, when you see them on other people, how do you feel? Scared.

You have some shiny stuff hanging off of your body and your tongue. Now he just stuck his tongue ring out or his tongue stud out. Does that help in a way that I'm thinking of in my mind right now? It is.

Do you have any piercings on your body? I do not. You do not. Do you want her to get piercings?

I like them. He does. Do you like seeing piercings on other people? Sure, because you have them on your nipple and you have, you have them on your tongue.

Now this is a man who, and I can I, can I tell him about the penis? Sure. All right. If you guys don't know it or not, this man has a tattoo on his penis.

Now, if you didn't think, wow, that's pretty impressive, I'm about to tell you something that's gonna blow your fucking mind. He tattooed himself. What and discuss. Nothing against you guys who wear board shorts, but seriously, it's time to put them away.

It's done. Board shorts are now the jams of when we were wearing board shorts. It's like you don't wear jams anymore. Board shorts are the, are the new jams.

So guys, burn them. When I went to the store months ago, I saw a pair of black shorts that I thought they look cute. Now I went a size down because I thought that would. sexier and as sexy as they look, my balls are spread across my inner thigh, so I have to change into a pair of underwear right now because I have to do this now or it's gonna bother me through the entire thing.

So Lauren, I'm handing you the show for the next, I think I could do this in under 7 seconds, maybe while you're gonna change out. So this is not gonna be pretty from that angle, by the way. I've seen worse. Oh God.

Oh, they're hurting. OK, just one at a time, side, one side at a time. Oh my God, your headphones are in between your cars in my pants. It's also a million degrees in here.

I stand up. OK. All right, I am back. We are recording now.

We are back with Doctor Jeff and Doctor Karen. How are you guys? So we're doing well. One of the most talked about people we've ever had on the podcast.

People ask about you guys all the time. For some reason, people find you adorable. You must be talking about her, not me. No, it's, it's both of you.

They don't even know what we look like. It doesn't matter. You've won the hearts of America and parts of Kenya from my download statistics. The good news is also you guys are coming here very, very soon.

Is that true? Yeah, yeah, we're coming. I'll be there on Saturday. We will see you guys in a few days actually.

I'm counting the hours. It's so fun. But how do you feel about that, that so many people sort of, sort of love you? So, uh, we're not sure how we feel about that.

That's, uh, we've always enjoyed a little anonymity. So that ship has sailed, my. Friend, I, I feel special. You should, you should.

Now, one of the questions that I usually get, Lauren, is people ask me, when did you two go to school together? And I tell them, you know, somewhere in the 90s, 80s, 80s, 90s, you know, in that area, and they ask where I got my degrees from, just plural degrees and uh I, I tell them, I tell them that we, we spent a lot of time together. Do you remember those days as fondly as I do, Doctor Jeff? I, uh, I, I, I remember the days.

I, I guess I don't remember our days together back then. I don't know why. But those days in the 90s, I do remember them. Yes.

I'll try to jog your memory and maybe the, the times of us going through med school and taking those tests, exam things. I'll just throw you some things that maybe you will or will. Not remember, but this is what we wanted to bring up on this podcast. Number one, we wanted to talk about vanity, some vanity questions that relate around medical things that we both know, you and I, we're versed in them, and I wanna say if you can, you can answer some questions that, uh, that we have and maybe some of the, some of the, the people have.

We wanna sort of get a definitive answer, uh, in a medical sense, smoking, good or bad. Well, fortunately the jury's not out on that anymore. We're pretty sure that that one's gonna be a bad one. I'll, I'll, I'll accept your answer.

I still think we need a few more studies. But we'll, we'll talk about it later. Um, do you know anything about hormone replacement? Anything about hormone replacement, because one of the things that we encounter a lot at this resort, both men and women, right?

Yeah, they're like, well, I, I get my blood tested and I, I'm on this dose and everyone knows their stats and all this stuff. Like it's the new thing. Yeah, now here's the thing, I'm gonna be honest with you, doc. There's been times where I have put some testosterone inside of my body.

At first, Laura used to put it in my apple juice, but then we learned that was the wrong way. It doesn't work. It doesn't work, not right now in particular, but there have been some hormones in my body. Now, what I can't seem to understand is when I did it, which was totally not above board, and I was taking testosterone, I was taking steroids, but when a doctor does it, it's called hormone replacement therapy.

So, What is the deal? Is that something that is potentially bad for you? Is it something in the long run that we see these guys, either 40s, 50s, 60s, and up, even women, right? There's a lot of women who I've talked to have done it because I've talked, I've, I'm curious about it too.

I'm really curious about what is the deal from a male and female standpoint, there, those are going to be a little different, right? So, first of all, to the point you asked initially, test. Testosterone replacement. The reason that that is concerning is because the amount that weightlifters will take will sometimes be in excess of 1000 times the usual body amount of testosterone.

So your body makes endogenous testosterone, right? You're supposed to have that a certain amount that does allow you, you know, kind of we can consider like homeostasis, like your normal balance. If you get a little low, you're going to. Feel the effects of that and so the replacement of testosterone in those that are deficient brings them back to that baseline level.

So that's of great value. So a hormone replacement in the setting of deficiency is great. So we're basically just talking about an amount that is the difference between doing roids and hormone replacement therapy, because Well, no, I mean there are other things besides testosterone that you can take. Testosterone tends to be a commonly used steroid.

But there are other androgenic steroids that you can take to build muscle mass. Let's just stick to testosterone because that seems to be, would you agree, the most common one, because especially even in women, they're like, Oh, my testosterone was out of whack, and now my libido is crazy. And to me I'm like, I want some of that. Sign me up really quick.

Back in med school. Do you remember Claire? She was super sweet, super racist, but only towards Polynesians. Uh, sweet racist Claire, I, and I can't remem, I don't remember her.

Go on with your testosterone thing. So is it an amount that you have to really watch out for? Yeah, I mean, in the sense that both men and women have testosterone. Uh, men obviously have more.

There are certainly fairly marked effects of testosterone on the human body. And so it's kind of interesting because what we consider maleness, a lot of. That is driven by testosterone. It's, if you really go back embryologically, it's actually the absence of testosterone that generates females.

So you have, with the presence of testosterone in the high amounts, you actually will, you will actually develop all secondary male sexual characteristics. Women do have testosterone, so that's not, how would a woman be affected by taking testosterone? Speaking purely embryotically, because I don't know what that word means. Well, you actually would develop more male sexual characteristics in the presence of testosterone even very early on in development.

So you're not taking as much as a bodybuilder, right? We're not gonna look like the Dwayne The Rock Johnson, right? I mean, you could, you could if you wanted to. I'm sure he doesn't put it in his apple juice.

But if you take a measured amount, it's still going to maybe double your testosterone. It's gonna be at a higher level than what would normally be. Are the same risk factors the same, or is it just somebody that, that it, it affects bodybuilders because they take so much? Yeah, so anytime you're going to take more than what your body would normally make, or who you say the kind of the accepted values, the accepted numbers, uh, you.

have some effects. I mean, there, you know, there are things like sleep apnea, you know, you can develop acne, you can have kind of um enlargement of the breasts, you know, there's, you can actually limit your sperm production because your body down regulates its own function of testosterone. So you'll get some kind of subtle effects. You actually increase your chance for blood clotting disorders.

Having a little more may well improve. Libido, uh, some kind of emotional well-being, but just a little bit more than would be your correct amount, you can start to get in some trouble. So it doesn't, there's no real benefit to be to have, to have excessive testosterone. And when you say the normal, like I feel like people in the late 50s, 60s are doing normal of a 40-year-old or something.

Is that normal of a 30-year-old? Yeah, but. That's not what your body would be making at that level. And they're like, but it's replacement therapy.

I'm doing what my body should be doing. Correct. Yes. So if you bring, there is a natural um decline in the amount of testosterone that we see.

It's very typical as men beyond 40, we see, you know, we see it diminish every year. So if you were to take the replacement, you would certainly be able to hold on to some of those earlier characters. Characteristics, but the problem is that the body is aging and so just the presence of testosterone doesn't decrease the, you know, the aging of cells. You will not have the same effect.

And so your body actually, the receptors for the testosterone actually down regulate. So as you get older, you're, you're not gonna have the same effect that you had when you were younger with it. Now, if you were to drop somewhat precipitously, you were really the number. So.

She loves when you use a lot of syllables. Is this getting too smart? No, not at all. I'm so hard right now.

Maybe, maybe it's just the testosterone in my body. If the number drops in, in excess, then you would, you'd like to bring it back up to at least the number where it should be given that age. What we find is, is that guy is just taking more anyway, whether it's a pellet. Under their skin, whether it's, it's an injection, they're, they're, they're still got the telltale signs of somebody who's taking steroids.

They're obviously sort of abusing it, not as much as someone like the mountain, right? It's a Game of Thrones reference even a little bit more than would be, you know, in your, the normative values, you would have some of those subtle effects we all associate with increased testosterone, right? Even the mood swings, like I said, the sleep apnea, the. Acne, the things that you'll think about, that is, you're gonna see the earliest kind of manifestations of that if you're in excess of your normal value.

I'm gonna tell you what, what a cardiologist said to me about steroids before I want to ask you if you remember back in med school, Glenn was a bald guy, really hairy arms, hugs were really warm, not ringing a bell. Yeah, I, I'm gonna have to get out the yearbook. All right, so this cardiologist, this cardiologist said to me, basically in so many words, Richard, you're gonna die. Are there heart problems that are directly related to taking testosterone just as a supplement, just as a supplement, and again, in the setting of an insufficiency or a deficiency of it, so is, well, let's say a minor abusive behavior.

So, so a little more than what you would, yeah, a little more like, oh, like, oops, I put a little bit more in my needle. Uh oh, my abs are looking stellar. The effect on the end organ. Is a dose dependent relationship with the amount of testosterone.

It would be a question of how much you're taking as to what that effect might be. Does testosterone have an effect on cardiac muscle? Of course it does, as it would with skeletal muscle as well. Even smooth muscle.

So you have 3 different types of muscle, and all of them will have some response to testosterone. What are my smooth muscles? Yeah, the ones that are smooth, GI tract. So that's like when you swallow.

Don't screw up your swallow muscle. Yes, your deep throat muscle, that swallow muscle is very important. I may take testosterone again. I'm just gonna say that out there.

Tell us, Richard, what, what's the, um, what's the endgame there? What's the purpose? As far as health issues go, I like looking good naked, right? And it seems to help with that.

Uh, sometimes when, when I take it, and I'm like, oh, Richard, your muscles look bigger. That's pretty hot. And, uh, it, it does make you a little bit hornier. It does make your dick a little bit fluffier, I guess.

I don't know what's gonna happen when I'm 75. Am I gonna pay for that later down the line? Maybe, But I don't know if I, as a doctor, am completely convinced with the research that I've done, these bodybuilders are being tested in these case studies, and they're grossly abusing the drug. And, and I read once on a thing or I watched once on YouTube because I don't read, uh.

When you are that big like a bodybuilder, the body doesn't know the difference between if it's 200 pounds of muscle or 200 pounds of fat. So that's gonna damage the heart. It has to. So, are the case studies that are done, are they only done with these gigantic bodybuilders that are taking a huge amount?

That's what you're saying. I mean, I think you're onto the, the right kind of, it's dose dependent relationships. So if you were just, like I said, those bodybuilders are very often taking, that's not. Exaggeration, they'll take 1000 times the normal dose.

And you're right, they're not dropping dead. And testosterone is a normal, it's a, it is a, you know, it's an endogenous hormone, it's something we make on our own. It's just like cortisol, right? So you can't be allergic to cortisone, your body makes it.

So it's the same with testosterone. So you'll find that if you were to take more than, you know, than your body needs, there will be some effect. But you're, you're saying the right thing. I mean, the long term, what is the effect of a 10% higher dose than would otherwise be your body creating on its own?

And we do know there's some subtle effects of that, but what the long term is, is probably not as clear, because most of the case studies are, as you detailed. I mean, it's mostly the super dose. I still wouldn't advise using it though. I'm just gonna cut that part out of the podcast and pretend that you never said it.

So listen, do you? Going back to med school, because I know you don't remember. I was just wondering, do you remember Philly was so homophobic they couldn't eat a banana without breaking it up into chunks? This is my next topic.

Botox and filler. Now I'm not gonna lie, Lauren has been to the doctor. We have spent a few Patreon dollars on getting her face reconstructed. Seriously, oh my God, gravity, not a fan.

Doctor Karen, you, I, I don't know if you partake. I mean, you look amazing. I, I believe in my heart that all of that is natural and you're 28 years old. Oh, delicate balance to find using all of that stuff.

So obviously inside of a place like Desire, you are apt to find people with filler, with Botox. Now the only side effects that I see from when Lauren gets it done is she looks at me like she has no soul. That's That's the side effect. I sold it to pay for my filler.

That's what happened. Is that something that is, is, is there too much filler? Is there anything that as us as a doctor, would we say, Hey man, go stick that botulism in your face. It's not gonna harm you even a little bit, right?

Get that angry look off of your face. Be angry. We just don't want to see it. So we trade the blank face from the angry face.

Blank face is way prettier. I think us, all of us girls, we're trying not to have the face that everybody stares at because it looks weird when you walk in the room, but you wanna have that face that looks rested and not in your forties. Is it bad for you in any way? Is this filler?

Is this Botox? Is it, is there any limit to it that can have adverse side effects? Let's just, so we can just separate it out. So fillers and Botox are different, right?

So Botox is a toxin that's botulin. Toxin that is injected in muscle that actually paralyzes the muscle. Love it. So the idea is wrinkles are caused by muscles.

You see them in laugh lines, you see them around the face, so those muscles contract and as they do so, they cause those wrinkles. And so if you were to paralyze that muscle, you would kind of get a smoothing effect of that. That does have some side effects, although I would say are actually fairly minor because what happens is the body gets used. To that toxin and does a very good job of starting to eradicate it quickly before it does its paralyzing job.

There is the worry early on of getting high dosing Botox because then you could actually, you know, cause too much. So, so we build an immunity, correct? You build an immunity to Botox. You have to pace it out a little bit.

So pace it out is basically the advice that we would give people as far as. Correct, yeah. So, so that's a pretty, that's a pretty tried and true medicine. I will tell you that.

That is used in children um with spasticity in their muscles and like cerebral palsy, and these are done in much higher doses and they are very safe. Botox is a good, it's a good modality for management of wrinkles, but it does, it will have a, I mean, there, there's an effect that's going to wear out. So the other thing is the, the, the hyaluronic acid infiltrates, right, those are fillers, that's Juvederm and your Restylin and all that. They're not paying us.

You don't have to say their name, not yet. All right, I wanna hear about fillers, but I just remembered one other thing. Wyatt med school carried a snake everywhere. He's a urologist now.

All right, move on to filler. These are my questions. A, how does the filler work? B, Why can they not put it in my penis?

No, I was gonna say, why can't they put it in my breasts, because I don't want to get breast implants because I'm a chicken. All right, filler, what the hell are they putting inside of Lauren's boobs if she does that? It won't work. So they're all temporary, right?

So your body will, if you're gonna put something in, these are not implants, right? So you're not talking about cheek implants or breast implants that are permanent, that are made of silicone or they're made of, they're like a thing. So this is, yeah, so this is a collagen. It's kind of a purified form of collagen, and so your body is going to reabsorb it.

You can toss implants around, but you can't toss for collagen. Right, get all the filler you want. That's not something you're gonna become immune to or anything. So there's allergic reactions, right?

So you can get that in, in anything. So some people do have allergic reaction to it, uh, and then you also can get, you can actually develop allergies to them if you're having them over and over again, your body starts to, um, develop an immunity against it, and so you can see that. So you can have a termination of lifespan of that as well. But no, it's the same kind of thing.

I mean, you're, you're injecting something into the tissues that are aging. The tissues are aging, and so they will potentially need more in the future as those kind of wrinkles start to get deeper and it is, uh, I mean, we're all chasing ghosts here, right? So this is already, you could do it for a while, but ultimately it's not going to probably have the effect you want. The earliest times, you know, we're having them always looks the best because it's often done in younger skin.

Yeah, younger is better. I'm with you. Yeah. That's, that's what you're saying, right?

Let's just tell everyone as much filler as you want. That's what I heard. Fill it up, sister. And then when it stops working, facelift.

Yeah, t, face lift, right. So then now you get into another a little bit different managing it as well. So now you're gonna just tighten everything back up, and that will, but again, those tissues will still stretch out with time. But again, that's all right.

I mean, the whole purpose is to escape death, be younger, yeah, and hotter while you're taking hormone. Bones to make your penis harder. Yeah, can it go in your penis? Doctor Jeff could bring some with us.

No, don't inject anything into my penis. I have bad luck with that. It's a better way to get the blood delivered into that area. That's what you need to concentrate on and not to inject things in it.

There's nothing, no reason to inject it in here. Your penis is a sponge for blood. It's a sponge for good loving is what it is. Doctor, come over here.

What room are we in? 11:11 for those who are not bilingual like the four of us. As far as Project Airtight goes, we have failed, complete fail. I disagree.

Complete fail. I mean, it hasn't occurred, but we are still, there's still many options. The night you're right. The night is young.

We are not young, but the night is. My butt plug is sitting out on the, the butt plug is out. So we are prepared. There's a lot.

There are a lot of people out there, and my butt plug is sitting next to yours waiting. So I imagine, friends, little butt plug friends. I imagine there's some man in this resort, if he only knew, would be like, me, me, me, I'll do it. I'll do it.

But here we sit, only two cocks on this bed, one functioning, not mine. You did try. I tried, and I still feel like I could bring this. You did present actually far too many men.

You've, yeah, multiple men, multiple men, right? Yes, yeah, no, Karen was very much working this over the last couple of days and had many, many candidates. Proactive. Yes, she's very proactive.

I feel like I was on the job. I don't know what it is. It's like, I think a lot of people will say yes, but how many people actually come to the room. Not everybody is attracted to everybody.

I don't think it was because of me. It could be that they weren't invited to the room, right? We have also not invited anyone to the room either. That's a concerning.

All right, so you, we, we still do have a little bit of hope here we sit. Yes, we, we will beg. So we'll see what happens. Maybe we will catch up with everybody a little bit later.

All right, anyway, that's all she wrote. So you, you were not full. We all failed, but again, I'm gonna blame it on Doctor Jeff. There is a lot of crap speaking of Doctor Jeff that, uh, did not make it in.

Dude just knows a lot of stuff, and I can't put it all on the podcast, so I put it up on Patreon. Speaking of. Patreons, we have some new ones, but wait, we had a Patreon. Our first Patreon left.

That's so sad. I just want a moment. I don't know if, if he's listening, but this is the right thing to do. Yeah, listen, hold on, everybody.

I want this to be private. So if everybody could just pause, everybody except for Dustin, because that's who left. Everybody for besides Dustin, turn your volume down, turn your volume. Him down for just a second.

Dustin, what's up, bro? Like 4 days, really? Like you came in, it's like you felt me up a little bit, kissed my neck, and then you just left. Look, I don't want it to end like this, but I, I just, I don't know if it's really over, honey.

Dustin, I feel like we can work this out, right? You, me, 5 bucks. No, it's all right, Dustin. If you're listening, we loved having you for 4 days.

Thank you for checking us out. And to the new Patreons, Jeff and Karen, of course, giving shout out. Mark A. the couple next door raised their pledge, MacKenzie, Samuel, Peppa, Jeff, and Brenda, Atkin, Thomas, Texas Spike, Scott Mclovin, Gary Fisher, Kurt and Vicky, and Edward.

Scott Mclovin. Well, it's not, it's Mick something, and I put Mclovin because he appreciates that. Great, just make shit up. All right, what else before we leave these lovely people back to their gym or drive or sex or jacuzzi or whatever it is you're doing right now?

Maybe you're eating, maybe you're fishing somewhere in England. If you are thinking about coming to Desire and you wanna book a trip. Make sure to go to our website if you're listening to this and book through our website. We are like a magnet for newbies and wonderful people, so we want to take you into our womb of desire and then give birth to you through our canal that we call the workshop and then raise you like our own until you come back again as if you went off to.

College or something, yeah, if you want to book, click on the link. We get 10% of the booking and it really helps me purchase in payments that Basquiat that I was looking at for Lauren. I'm gonna hang it in the front entrance and a very quick thank you to Malibu Strings. They make laying out in your backyard fun for your creepy neighbor.

All right, and then last but definitely not least, sort of serious note, we found out earlier in in in the month that during August, we will not be giving the Art of Touch workshops at Desire due to sexy young and wild activities, not actually sexy young and wild activities. The month has its own activities. We actually don't even know what they are. We haven't received a schedule yet.

We just know that for that month, we will be suspended. We apologize deeply to anybody who is on. On their way to desire and look forward to the workshop during the month of August. It's not something that we planned on.

It's not something that, uh, we really knew about. So if that is you, then just please email us, reach out, and we'll help you figure something out. We are still gonna be around, so I'm not. You're going on a sabbatical.

All right, that is it. Uh, that's all I got inside of me for now. I am going to till next month, till next month. And that about does it for us.

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