Ep. 107: What Are Your Lifestyle Fears?

Richard: All right, Lauren, we've started. You started your period. Oh my God, I'm here, Richard. I'm right here today. We're gonna talk about some vanilla stuff. We're gonna talk about some Back to the Future stuff, some Marty McFly stuff. Hopefully we're gonna talk about the lifestyle world in, uh, things that you're afraid of in the world. I'm afraid of vanilla resorts. That's what I found out.

Lauren: 77 is how it is said in British English. 77. You know, Rule 7, let the trouble.

Richard: Speaking of vanilla, I know a lot of people are asking for the update on whether Haley went into the gym and asked the the gym guy if, uh, she could get a date with him, and it did happen. Unfortunately, it's a little uneventful, uh, so she brought it up. To him. He was impressed with her transparency. They clicked immediately knew the best friends, chatty, chatty, chatty, talk every day. Everything was, it went swimmingly and now they're probably having unprotected sex. I don't know. What, what do I know? Yeah, I don't know. But that story is so boring. We even debated whether we're going to talk about it on here or not because So what we thought we would do is make something up that was just a little bit more telenovela, yeah, a little more. This is gonna be a way better story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a way better story. Here's what really happened when they talked. Here's what happened. She, uh, walked up to him and she said, Hey, you wanna fuck? I have a husband. And he looked at her. He was like, That's really fucking weird, man. He didn't accept it at all. Normal person. That's why I gave her my line. You need explanations, yeah, and, and, and, and he was like, I'm just, I'm just a little put aback. You should have been upfront and just told me. And she was like, be upfront. You came up and hit on me. Now this thing's getting dramatic, right? It's going to a place where, right, and, and he's like, I wasn't hitting on you. What are those trashy expectations you have? Yeah, he called her trashy, which made her really, really. Angry and she was like, don't talk to me like that. You're not my husband. He's like, Oh, trust me, I know I'm not your husband. You have a husband that I just found out about a few seconds ago. And she was like, You know what? I'm quitting the gym. That's what she said, I'm quitting the gym. Yeah, she said, You're never gonna see me again. And he was like, do whatever you want. I, and because, you know what, I'm, I am, I'm, you already gave me herpes. She was like, I don't have herpes. How is that even possible? We were never even together sexually. He's like, it doesn't matter. I'm gonna tell everyone. That's what I'm gonna tell everyone. Yeah, that's how it ended. Such a horrible story. That is horrific. Oh my God, I can't believe that happened. Did you think that Steve got mad? When he listens, he will. Hello everyone. There are a lot of ways that you can support us, but the three best ways are this travel, going to our event, and becoming a member. The first, travel. Yeah, if you're going to book Desire or Temptation or Jito or any of the cruises, go to room 77life.com, use the links there to get to those official sites because it costs you nothing and you get a free Bikini Addiction bikini, which no one else does, and you support the podcast. It's so Easy and it helps us so much. 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So I am going to put down in the show notes. The link to my new travel page, if you will go over there and help me rebuild. You can follow me there and then you can message me and I really appreciate it. And in addition to thank the newest monthly members who took time to come over and support the podcast, we have Scoop, Casey, Video A to Z, Bourbon and Babe, Ryan, Stacy and Ted, passionate lovers in C, Andrew, and J.Lo supporting the pod. I know, bless her. But honestly, she can afford it. So we are talking about vanillas because we're at Vanilla, a vanilla resort. It's a little adults only. Happy anniversary to you. It's been 23 years that we've been together, some number of marriage that we have 1818 years. Remember last year I got it wrong. I do not off by a year, off by several years, which just goes to show you how much you're paying attention. Time flies so fast when you're having fun. That's what they say. By the way, celebrations for anybody who hears this, it's never too late to send a gift. Don't you always buy anniversary gifts for your friends? Yes, what I would speculate is that they're buying them for me to give to you, but just know that Lauren's hobbies are very similar to mine. She loves. Yeah, she loves smart home stuff, you know, anything that I'm interested in, she's really interested in too. So that's she also wears men's shoes. Just if you have any questions, just, uh, send me a message and I'll tell you what to get him. Um, so what we did is we went away to a vanilla place and my heart goes out to the people that have to live in both worlds. Oh, I know, right? You're so, oh my God, I didn't even think about that. I like because when we don't go a lot, right? And we were there. It's a beautiful resort. Let me change that. It was a beautiful resort. It really was. At one point, it was a really beautiful resort. It has the potential to be really, really sexy. So when you get there, I think, again, this isn't conversations that we've never had before, but your lifestyle brain or your swinger brain does not turn off. It never ever turns off. So it's like you show up to the pool, you know that you're at a regular normal resort, but you immediately start scanning. For hot people, right? Of course. Look at that couple that just came in. But the difference is they're all fucking reading books ignoring you. I have no clue that you're even looking at them in any way, shape, have no idea that you even walked up. So you're so used to that, that feeling of walking up to the pool and people are just like, who just entered? Are, am I interested? Am I not interested? Who are they? Or like, you know, you're scan like I could have been on fire. I could have been on fire. They would not have noticed nothing. We used to talk about this when we would leave Desire and we did go back to like LA and we would say, I went to the grocery store and I just said hi to this man and then whatever. The communication is so muted. I get so bored so fast. It's, it's very, very strange when you talk about the talking to people in the store. So here's what happens the second day we're there. It was like there was no, by the way, no one there was attractive. Nobody, not even close. I think pretty much everyone had a one piece on. Everyone had a one piece on. It was very conservative and I was like, oh my God, I just want to cry. And so anyway, so. The next day, one of the days we, we eat breakfast and we're sitting there and I see a couple go to the pool and I'm like, oh my God, there's a hot couple that just came to the pool. And they were like young and fit and like cute. And I was like, oh God, we got, let's go back to the room and dress hoary. I was like, should I wear my high heel wedges? What do I wear? And you wore your thong, your hoary little bikini, right? I wore my, my little shorts that I, I think showed off my little penis. Just tried a little extra hard, you know what I mean? We get out there, we try to make it pretend like we're not gonna sit next to them. But It was so awkward. It was the only place that's the only place. I'm sorry, it's the only place that we could, uh, sit is next to you. Now, mind you, we go through all of this stuff in our head. We sat down, never even looked at us once, not even a glance, not even a care. Again, I could have been, good afternoon. Nothing again, could have been on fire while I was sitting down. I actually. stood standing for a while just to make myself noticeable. Like they would look over and be like, oh, buenos dias, senor, anything, anything, nothing, which is even awkward because we've lived here for so long that we are used to people. It is very customary here to acknowledge people in the elevator. You pass them. In the hallway, you always say, you know, whatever Buenos Aires, Buenos Diaz, whatever it is. So anyway, we sat there for the next two hours just trying to get them to just say anything. I don't know what I expected. At some point they were going to turn around and go, Where are you guys from? That's what I was expecting. And then I would have been like, What are you guys into? They would have been like, What do you guys like bareback? That would have been a soft opener. She was, she was actually really, really cute. I think he finally spoke to us. She had gone to the bathroom and he was laying there asleep with a towel over his body like he was dead. So he had a towel covering him under the umbrella. So it was like double no sun. And an iguana that you were paying attention to climbed on top of him and crawled on his head. It is the only time that he spoke to you. It took a reptile. Encroaching on his personal space to land, to crawl onto his head for him to say, you see that that iguana just crawled on my head? We were like, no, wow. But then where do you go with that? Yeah, I know. I didn't have anything. I was not prepared for that with a follow up. I had some other, you know, like, hey, how's it going? Oh, and nice to meet you guys. Where are you from? Nothing. I didn't have any preparation for an iguana story. Yeah, no, so, um, you know, we just did a lot of sexing back in the room. The other thing is too, is like, you know, that feeling of, uh, you eat dinner and then you're like, OK, yeah, let's, uh, and we literally did this, went back to the room, watched one episode of Little House on the Prairie. We did. We put on Netflix. And I was like, oh, this is such a travel day, Richard, it was a big day, yeah, big day. I don't know if there's any trick to being able to go back because eventually, you know, you can't always go to a lifestyle resort. I don't know what the happy medium is. Is there one, you think? I think a lot of people just go and they do both and they'll do lifestyle and vanilla in the same vacation, but we were looking for. Just weekend of sexing just to celebrate us. So that's why we picked this place because it was like a giant room and a rooftop pool and we could just be naked if we wanted to in our own space without having to worry about clothing optional or whatever. But I always hear when people go to vanilla places, they're like, it's so boring. It's so boring. It's so hard. I remember it being boring, but I know I always. seem to forget how boring it is and how closed off people are conversationally a couple almost at every dinner just both be in their phones watching reels. I was like, they're watching reels and you and I are like sitting there and just I scooted my chair over closer. We're laughing and talking, talking, talking, and I don't know if anybody has any advice for because the next thing you do obviously is start trying to fuck the staff. It's immediately where you go. Like, all right, who in the staff can I have sex with? It's true. What's the next step? Not that I didn't think about it. That was our, that was our little getaway for our 18th anniversary of wedded bliss, not together because that number is 23 years, which is a lot of years. Not that I'm complaining. I'm just saying when it comes to when you say 23 years of anything, it's a lot of years. Yeah, ages us almost because we got together really young. It aged me. You stop that right now. So yeah, so today, uh, I wanted to talk about things that scare me. Yeah, lifestyle things that scare you or just life, life things that scare you like the concept of death. Well, no, I wasn't going to go that deep. OK, good, because I'm not ready for things that scare me in the lifestyle. This is the question is things in the lifestyle that I haven't done yet that I want to do that I probably won't do, but I still kind of want to do. What's stopping me from doing it? And for instance, I, my best example is, you know, those blackout orgies where you go into a dark room and everybody's just in a pile and it's like, look, you take off your clothes, you jump in this pile, you agreed to all holes barred, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the discount bucket in the dollar store. Oh yeah, like that Price is Right one where you stick your hand in the little bag, yeah, and you pull it out. You don't know what it is. I don't know really what I'm afraid of. I'm more afraid of like a smell or feeling trapped or feeling something wet that shouldn't be wet. That like maybe some sweat or something like that, something that would gross you out that you can't see beforehand to, yeah, because you can't validate. It's sort of like, like in a bathroom, any liquid on the floor is urine. It doesn't matter what it is. If it's, if it's liquid on the floor in a bathroom, it's default urine. It doesn't matter what doesn't matter if the toilet is actually leaking fresh water, right? So it's like imagine being in the dark and you touch somebody and you're just in a pile of slime. Like that would be like, oh when your hair's like hairy things or something, yeah, maybe something like that, or, or because when you take away your sight, your other senses are heightened. These are things that I think about and a bunch of bodies together. I don't know. I don't know what it smells like. Like I want to find somebody who's done it before. And just be like, what does this smell like? What if the room was smell free and that we took care of that beforehand. Everyone showered. I'm not saying that they are not sweaty now. So the smell was taken out. So that fear I've alleviated. What is the rest? What would be a secondary? Because for me hair would be something. It would be like, oh, it was super puby and I freak out. Super puby would, would, would be weird. Uh, what if someone just like came up and licked you like in a weird random place like up your stomach to your neck and was just like, just with their tongue and you're like, whoa, that isn't even like penetration or something. Oddly enough, I'm fine with that. That would be OK with you. Yeah, I'm fine with that. You want to lick me like a lollipop, go right ahead. Right. Oh, here's one. Here's one. Here's one. Someone physically sitting on my face without just like just some asshole that just somebody buried, not an asshole, but someone put their asshole on your face. Yeah, just something like that happened like just immediately for some reason I'm buried in their taint. You can't breathe, right? You're suffocating brings up smell again. Like I just like. Someone help me tap out. Mine, since you asked, would be something that, no, not about the dark gorgy. My thing that I would like to do that I haven't done yet would be one of those walls. Oh yeah, like the glory hole female glory hole, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right, so everybody knows what we're talking about. A female glory hole is like my legs and my pussy lower body is hanging outside of a wall. So it's just the legs and and the vagina are hanging out vagina, where are we on a medical show now? The legs are out. Everything else is behind a wall, so it's just like any, and then the and then the guys or whoever is on the other side of the wall, you can just come up to anybody who's sticking out of the wall and do whatever you want. So now we have, uh, word pictures. What, uh, what scares you about that? To me it sounds fantastic. I think the obvious, you know why? I'm gonna tell you why before I cut you off again. You don't have to worry about smell. True, that's, that's a bonus on this one. You don't have to worry about site that's taken care of. You really don't have to worry about what, what anything is. Um, to me, I'm, I'm into it. I mean, this is like, this is why glory holes are, were invented. So go. What, what, what could your possible fear be? I guess it would be like, I don't want people doing me bareback, I think. Well, all right, let's assume we put some assumptions in there. Everyone, everyone is tested and clean. Everyone's sussed and clean. I think it would be, I think I'd just be afraid of pain, but I don't know how that would happen. And you know, I like to use toys while I get fucked, and that would be impossible. So that would be difficult for me. OK, but this is a different, this is a different thing. It's a different concept. Yeah, it's a different concept. I mean, the first one I kind of understand. So let's just stick with that one. You just wanting to use toys while it's happening is just selfish. But the first one, pain, what do you mean by pain? So there's a guy that's just too big or he's just doing it too hard, rough, big and rough and hard, and I'm like, and I just finished with, you know, Jimmy, and Jimmy pegged me really hard, and then it's like, here comes Johnny with his big dick, and he's like just pounding it too. And then, yeah, well, maybe you have to be that kind of woman where you're like, I know I can take everything and everybody. It's not a problem for me. Yeah, I'm not open. Yeah, the concept of it is really intriguing, but I know my, I know I have limits with my pussy because it's not very big at all. So I maybe would either prep for that. How would you prep? I don't know, like get an like dilator or something. Is there medicine for that? Is there a vagina dilator? I don't know. I think or just have the guys be like. Dude, you're way too big. What guys are going to say that? No, like me, you, like if someone at the door is like a bouncer. You have a, you have a little bouncer, yeah, at the door, and it's like, let me see your hard cock, and then you're like, maybe I want to touch it. And then you're like, Oh sorry, sorry, I touched your cock, but I just need to see it for my wife. So you, OK, so yours is customized, right? A little bit, right, just to prevent me from the pain part. OK, if you could. Guarantee that everybody would not hurt you. And is that hurting in emotion or is it just hurting in not emotion, motion in in a motion in hurting in emotion like they're thrusting too hard, or is it just size? I think it would be just size. OK, so let's just say that they all have to be within a certain size, OK, and um. They can thrust solid because then that's kind of that pain's kind of fun, you know, in a way. OK, I don't know, but I'm just saying like if you could guarantee that, would, would you want to do it? OK, so what's stopping you, um, that part, yeah, and people, people having tests and also the wall of knowing where one is. Yeah, I don't know where one is. We'd have to build one, which would be easy. Um, all right, but, but, so you're fine. Let me get this straight, and this goes in with my orgy too, because you gotta be fine. Uh, you're fine with it. Literally anybody's gonna come in and fuck you. It literally doesn't matter. It does not matter what's on the other side of that wall. I, I could show you some photos online. What's gonna be other, other side of that wall. Yeah, I think I could do it once. Yes, I think I could do it once just for the experience. And then would you want to see photo? I already know where you're going. No, absolutely not. I'm going to show you photos of all the people who just who just took all all parts of you. OK, so then let me ask you, at the end of your orgy, do the lights come on? No, God no. You run out and you get in the locker and you change and you leave before anyone else sees you. Well, yeah, because then they'd be like, arrest that man. So you went in an orgy unauthorized. No, I just kept putting my finger up people's butts for fun. Boop, and I kept doing that. Who keeps saying poop and putting their finger up my butt. So you wouldn't want to see either. I would not. No. It's funny that we both want something blind, but we won't chase it, right? Yeah, well, I mean, also the availability of it is, it's not like I'm always running into blackout orgies. You know what I mean. Like, oh my God, we had this blackout orgy we could go to on Friday. Yeah, I got the email again. It's another one I wanna, I'm in a list. Yeah, you're on the list. OK. Second question is the Marty McFly Back to the Future question. OK, I like this question. OK, if you could go back to your earlier lifestyle self when you first came into the lifestyle, what would you tell your young lifestyle self? Now you can't give away any details, meaning you can't give away anything that is going to happen to you. You can't talk about anything, any. Specifics because you can't fuck up the time of space sex continuum. And that's what Marty McFly would do. He'd say you can't tell them too much information, but you can tell them something, right? You can't tell them too much because you don't want to change the future. What do you tell yourself about the lifestyle in general to make it better for yourself? I would try and convey, God, it's hard to put into words. Well, it's a podcast, so you better. I can't do an interpretive dance that doesn't work. I would try and convey somehow that the fact is what I think I'm putting so much weight on at day one or what is so important to weigh, which I don't even know how to explain that, but at the end of 20 years of the lifestyle, it really does. It doesn't have the same amount of weight. It doesn't carry the same weight. It doesn't carry the same importance. It's, it's just, it really doesn't matter in the end. That was my answer and I feel like you read it and cheated on me. I didn't read your answer. You sure? No, you texted it. OK, so you knew, so you just stole my answer. Well, what the fuck am I supposed to say now? You can't just steal my material. This is why I can't tell you anything, and you're like, I didn't Richard. I didn't think of it, and you sold it too. I've really been thinking about this. Well, I liked it so much and it made, I said it, yes, it's so good. Well, we can, we can both agree on, on, on what, what we would say. And so I will chime in with the exact same thing is I would tell myself no one really cares. That splits into two different versions. My younger self would say, What, what do you mean, bro? I used to say bro a lot. What do you mean, bro? No one really cares. No one really cares. Stop. Trying so hard. No one meaning other couples or other people, don't try so hard. You're trying so hard, you're getting so emotionally invested. You're taking things so personally. No one really cares that much. They just want to have a good time. They just want to have a good time, you know, you're overthinking everything, everything, everything, and I really didn't even hit that place until, I don't know, 4 years ago or 5 years ago, I think. And then the other side of that is no one really cares. Isn't that what that means this, this lifestyle comes with a lot of emotion, a lot of feeling of I fucking love you, man. But the truth is, is you're not their family, you're not their husbands, you're not their wives, you're not their boyfriends. At the end of the day, they worry about them themselves and, and their family. Always emotions get so high, feelings get so high. You're raw and you get to know people a lot quicker. So it's like a fast. Forwarded friendship almost, but, but in the end, most of the time, not all, but most of the time you like in life, you will find a few really good friends, but the rest really don't give a shit. They're just looking out for themselves. And we had said on a podcast a while back is if you have hot friends and you get into a fight with your hot friends, your good friends are still gonna, they're still going to try to have sex with your hot friends. That's how unloyal they are. If you're in a, if you're in a vanilla world and you have this couple that you're like, I, I don't like them, they, they fucked me over and they, they, you're like, I don't even want to meet those people. They sound horrible. Take that scenario in the lifestyle. You're like, Oh, they fucked me over. I don't like them. And they're like, Yeah, I know that couple. Saw them at a few parties. Really sexy, really sexy couple. I mean, if when I talk to them, I will not bring it up, bring it up to them. I just still continue my mission to have sex with them. Yeah, so it's like that's how deep it goes. That's, that's, and that's, that's the lifestyle. That's what I would tell myself. And then the last thing is cardio. Cardio. Oh, that's so funny. Cardio is really important. It's important for blood flow and the penis, and it's also important for fucking and pleasing women. I've watched it over the years. Watched men who have great cardio. They're better lovers. They get better erections. They have better sex. I think that you would have still been like, yeah, I don't need it that much. I mean, probably lazy, probably there's something fun about watching a guy who can go and go and go and go. There's something not sexy about me going, Oh, I need a break. Oh God. Is it hot in here? Is that air conditioner all the way down, or I was so close to coming. Don't be so selfish. Go sit by myself. All right, well, I want to hear what other people have to say. It's really interesting. 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The first thing, something that you're afraid to do or that you still want to do in the lifestyle that you haven't done yet. And what is stopping you? Like, for instance, mine was a blackout orgy. So my question is, is there something in the lifestyle that scares you that you haven't done yet or that just scares you and, and what's, what's stopping you?

Lauren: Oh, pressure's off. I'm so glad I'm not talking right now. No, no pressure. I'm a germaphobe, but I, I, I think some of you may know that, but there's

Richard: nothing you want to conquer, uh, even though you've, you've overcome your germophobia.

Lauren: You

Richard: know, your

Lauren: example,

Richard: you stole it from

Lauren: me. I mean, that would, that'd

Richard: be a tough one. But is that something that works for you? Is that something that orgy, a blackout orgy is something that like in your mind you could be like, that could be really exciting, but at the same time really scary. Absolutely. I mean, right? Yeah, I mean, I think so. You don't know where you are, what's going on. It's, but same things you got. So, it's just where my nose, where'd my nose end up? That's what he was like, what if someone sits on me and I can't breathe. Yeah, that was my other fear is my face winds up in someone's taint, and I'm like I don't want that to happen either.

Lauren: So similar here,

Richard: so similar. Yeah, we should actually do our own blackout orgy. We'll organize it. Make, we'll make sure everybody's clean. Yeah, we'll just do our own. And it's not really a blackout orgy. We know what everybody looks like, but that's the trick. We'll pre-screen everybody. We're gonna work on this. We're gonna workshop this. Is there anything that you, you find exciting that you're still afraid to do?

Lauren: So the local events has that blackout room. Did

Richard: you ever do it?

Lauren: Absolutely not. Nobody's ever, nobody's ever in it.

Richard: So you go in and you go to check to see who's doing the. How do you see? How do you know if it's blackout? How do you know that it's empty? It's only kind of see the

Lauren: dust fly when you open

Richard: the door, and it's not pitch, pitch black. Is that correct?

Lauren: I mean, you can kind of sort of see a little bit door door opens. Yeah, when the door opened, you can kind of, kind of see. And I asked them, you know, I asked the security guy, I'm like, Is anybody in there? He's like, No,

Richard: no, OK, no, OK. I mean, because it's a, it's a, it's also a. Thing that like if somebody walks in and they just see Richard sitting there going, come on, let's do this. I mean how do you get something like that started?

Lauren: I mean there can't be a bunch of people sitting behind a thing waiting.

Richard: No, you have to have a group that's already planned to do it that's like you guys have to start this you have to and then people could just randomly join and then like, like the playmakers at a resort, then you can leave after. After you get the party, after you get the party started, then you can leave, but I can't imagine how that just organically starts. I guess you just start to play and then people would just start joining. I

Lauren: mean, unless they have a signup sheet at certain times, like, you know, 7 o'clock, you know,

Richard: yeah, and take their credit card. So there's

Lauren: some

Richard: sort of,

Lauren: yeah, my worry is. Two things. One, that if we, if we do are with someone and, uh, and we're getting ready to play, and then they, then she has like, she doesn't trim or shave, shave.

Richard: Lauren brought that up.

Lauren: You know what I was talking, yeah, like big 70s bush

Richard: feeling big bush was something that, that Lauren, Lauren brought up today which would frighten me out of the room immediately. Yeah, yeah, that and smell, that and smell, because you're, you, it would have to be heightened, right? Like you would start smelling stuff, right? You can't see anything because you can't see anything. Everything else gets heightened. Yeah, that's, that's one of the things smell keeps coming to me because I'm like, what does it smell like? Yeah.

Lauren: I think there's not like a specific act that I, I think it was too far or it's too much. Uh, I think my only, my fear is that it won't go well, and it could, you know, either ruin a night or it could ruin a vacation, you know, a couple of days of recovery, kind

Richard: of like, do you want to be whipped or what, what is it that's in your head?

Lauren: I don't like being in pain. I've never associated it with pleasure, but that was gonna be my answer. I was like, I, I see people being like, lightly flogged or whatever on the cross, and it's like, Should I try that? I don't, I don't know if I would enjoy it or it would just be like a total kill for me.

Richard: Yeah, I tried it. I didn't really get much out of it, to be honest with you. I mean, there's, there's nothing wrong with getting up there and giving it a good whirl, but it just, for me, it was just like, uh, all right, I'm done. I just didn't really get much out of it. Uh, Sweet Badger, you seem disgusting.

Lauren: Oh, filthy. So, uh, yeah, so the thing I would like to do is just be open about the lifestyle with more people, but there's huge societal setbacks to that. Uh, but it'd be great, like New Year's, we went to Scarlet Ranch, and it was an amazing party. And then I went back to work after that, and everybody was like, how was your New Year's? And I was like, Best New Year's ever. And they're like, what are you doing? And I was like, oh, nothing. Like I can't tell you. Yeah, we just went to a club. What club? I, I, I don't remember the name.

Richard: Yeah, that sucks. It's, it's, it's a little like living in a small little prison. I know. What about after you retire?

Lauren: Probably more so. I've already started buying more pineapple shirts that I'm just gonna wear and hope for the best. But y'all are

Richard: still raising kids and that's a whole thing too, you know, it's like.

Lauren: Yeah, and I don't think the kids know anything, but I do think when they're like 16 or 17 years old, they're going to see something in a movie and they're going to be like, Oh my God, oh, mom and dad are swingers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We always, when we go to the swingers club, we always tell people like, we're going antiquing, and nobody's questioned why it's always an overnight trip for antiquing, and we never come home with antiques, but somebody will figure it out. It's,

Richard: they come over to your house and expect it to be like grandma's and it's just everything's from Wayfair. This

Lauren: is so

Richard: odd

Lauren: I

Richard: thought you were going antiquing so much.

Lauren: Yeah, well, it's, you just, it's hard to find a, a, a good connection at the antique store. You don't always go home with something.

Richard: Maybe someday you'll come home with someone like a really old woman. This is what we got. Her name is Ethel. Uh, anybody else, before we move on to the next, uh, any, anybody else have a fear that they, yes,

Lauren: um, I was gonna just sort of piggyback lifestyle experiences is somewhat limited and particularly to one relationship. Uh, my fear really now is just dating, like trying to date with somebody and. And how to broach that subject and you know, it, it's can be a complete game killer, you know, if you're not, so it's, uh, that's a little bit of a challenge, you know, and, and I, it goes back to just being open.

Richard: Have you tried to, to broach the subject already and like has it come up before with other people resistance?

Lauren: The girl that I'm seeing, well, I'm sort of seeing now, uh, is actually moving out of state and, uh, because of

Richard: you,

Lauren: yeah, you know. Um, but we broached it and, uh, you know, it went, it went great, and, you know, I mean, I think you remember I reached out and was asking for like some recommendations in the area and stuff. I found that her interest was probably maybe a little bit more theoretical than real, you know, the fantasy was there, but maybe not the. Sort of actual participation, it's quite a leap, yeah, you know, um, so I really haven't had it, it hasn't failed, but it just hasn't, uh, materialized, I guess it's probably more

Richard: the dating world scares me. I feel for you, man.

Lauren: It's frightening.

Richard: Two single guys in here and I don't know why I lumped them into the category. But I just did.

Lauren: I swear I do have a wife. She's not big on group chats, right? She's in Florida.

Richard: OK, I get it. Sure,

Lauren: she goes to a

Richard: different

Lauren: school. Yeah, yeah.

Richard: I just don't have any of her photos up on my phone. Yeah, those are, those are more emotional and deeper answers than, than I was hoping for. I wanted to hear like, uh, anal, yeah, I wanted to get pegged. Like that's what I thought 100% I was gonna say and not just by a normal size dildo, one of those really, really, really large ones that you strap on and you can barely stand up like a sassy pants, yeah, yeah, yeah, really, really

Lauren: huge. I am not homophobic, but that is not me.

Richard: I know it's not you. All right. And then the, the last thing that we wanted to, and it depends on years in this, I guess, but Marty McFly, Dirty Marty McFly, Dirty Marty McFly. Which is, if you could go back in time and tell yourself, if you could tell yourself one thing, you can't give any events, you can't say anything specific, you just have to give advice. What advice would you give yourself without disrupting the time sex continuum? Uh, for me, I would tell myself, people don't really care that much, they just wanna have a good time. You know, you're worried about your six pack abs. I know you are. They don't really care that much. Like they just want to have a good time. They want to care if you're nice. They want to care if like there's so many things that they don't smell. Yes, they want. Yes, they care about that. So what would you say to yourself?

Lauren: Yeah, uh, so me and my ex, we started at Desire, uh, DRM. That's where we met you guys. And we, you know, we went there. Several, couple of times, not too many times, but I would definitely go back and sit myself down on that first day and say, nobody here is too hot to talk to. Go talk to everybody. Nobody's out of your league. Nobody is like, they're all, we're all facing the same idea of like, who's going to talk to me? Should I talk to them? Should just be bold and make connections. Not everybody's your person, but they're, they're there. Who cares what they look like?

Richard: That's that's. Really good advice. Um, it just gave me chills is so inspired Lauren chills, who's gonna show her titties at the end of this. That's how we're gonna, that's how we're gonna end this. But, uh, I think that's really great advice because I've been there in the way that I've been like, I'm not talking to her because there's no way she's ever gonna be interested in me, and I don't want to be that guy, so. Just with that, I'm gonna be like, everybody's talking to her. Everybody's giving her attention. I'm gonna be the person that doesn't because I don't wanna be that guy, right? At the end of everything, I'm like, you're an idiot because they're shooting their shot. And, uh, and there were a few times in, in the lifestyle world where a few times where I have been in the middle of something and thought, I cannot. I believe this woman is having sex with me. I can't believe I landed this. Can't believe it. So that is really good advice because you never really do know. Sometimes you talk to those people that you're afraid to talk to and you immediately go, this person's an asshole and you're not interested. I almost immediately you're like, this person's just an asshole. I just don't even want anything to do with it. But if she wants to give me oral, I'd be OK with that. Who else would like to tell me what they would tell their selves, uh, walking into, hey, hey, no, I would tell myself 1015 years ago, be more open-minded than what you were then compared to now. I would tell myself that as well. I think that's a really, that's really an astute answer. I think we get really picky about who we are and what our definition, what our, what our definition of as opposed to again. Just focusing on the pleasure of everything. If you asked me 15 years ago what my thoughts on the lifestyle or any of this would have been, it would have been a hell no. What are those people thinking? And even though we're very, very, very new into the exploring of this, my mindset is completely different than it was 15 years ago. Had it been.

Lauren: Different 15 years ago I'm gonna be in a different spot in my life right now.

Richard: I it's so amazing, uh, Mr. Sweet Badger. No, no, no, wait, I was sorry sorry.

Lauren: Hey, can you hear me? Yeah,

Richard: we can hear you. Oh,

Lauren: awesome. I just hooked up the microphone. Hey, uh, by the way, Nor Asian here, uh, sun bum, as Lauren dubbed her. Yes, so for the question of what. Advice I'd give myself or give ourselves if we could go back to the beginning of all this, be direct. One of the things we found early on in our experiences, people were over, everyone's lifestyle is friendly, right? Not picking up on the cues that certain people were giving us, like we were getting hit on. We didn't realize it. And then it was like a week later, like, wait a minute. So just being more direct, and that's something that we've done recently is just, hey, do you want this or or are you interested in this and that would be the advice be direct, ask questions. Don't beat around the bush. Don't beat around the bush

Richard: and don't have bush. That's also something that I would spread to most everybody, um. Yeah, that's, that's also really good, really good advice to give to your, your earlier self. It still annoys me. Does it annoy you when people are like, so you're like, do you guys wanna fuck or not? But it took us still even some to get there. But then that sort of became your thing was like, I'm going to go in here and get naked if anyone wants to got to a point of frustration where people weren't being direct, point where my move was, and I don't have to do this anymore. Maybe we've evolved as a species. I used to go into the room and go, I'm getting naked. Yeah, if anyone wants, if anybody wants to join me, or if you want to stay out here with your small talk and your one more drink, and only 1% of the time was I left there sitting naked. by myself feeling really, really awkward. Yeah, Mr. Sweet Badger.

Lauren: So when we first started in the lifestyle, I think we spent like 6 months talking about the rules, you know, we wrote them down, we agreed on, and I would go back and be like, hey, the more rules you have, the less experiences you can have. Just like, just don't fucking worry about it, guy, because every time we've removed a rule, and then it happens, I'm like, you know what, that was actually really hot. We should have always done that. Like. And now our rule is like condoms are non-negotiable, and that's the only rule. Like,

Richard: we still meet couples that have a shit ton of rule. Yeah, they're like, no kissing and I'm like, oh God, here we go. And it's an immediate no from us. Like, it's too stressful for me. I don't, I could have done it back in the day when I was on that level, but then it's, I've morphed past it and then it just gets.

Lauren: And a lot of times the rules are really vague when they explain them, and you're like, I don't really like if you've got a no penetration rule, first off, lame. Second, does that mean just PIV? Can I put a finger in you? Is oral count as penetration? Like, we need our lifestyle lawyer out here to run through this contract, and I don't have time for that.

Richard: I don't, I don't either. It's like you're trying to stay hard and you're like, but wait, and then, uh. Yeah, it just adds, it adds a lot of, it does add a lot of stress. What were, do you remember some of your, or what maybe one of your silliest rules was like, was it like no pinkies in my asshole? Like what was,

Lauren: well, I still would prefer they ask first. Um, we have like a same room rule, but that went out the window. Like, yeah, but at first like there was just a lot of rules we discussed. One of them that was floated was like, we have to find positions that work for all four people. We don't want to just split into separate groups on the end. I was like, just, I see where your mind's at with that one, but it seems not feasible.

Richard: I used to panic about that too, because I used to be like, if I couldn't see him for, I don't know, 30 seconds to 1 minute, I would start to panic and freak out and I'd be like, where are you? I can't find a hand or something. And then I'd be like, check, can we check

Lauren: in? Yeah, but it's just so much better if you could just go with the flow. Everything's tranquilo. You don't have to worry. You know, like last time we went to the club, I left to get champagne, and it was New Year's Eve, so the bar was a long line. It took me like 20 minutes to get back and when I got back, Kristen was just getting railed by a guy who wasn't in the room when we started, and I was like, All right, I'm drinking both these champagnes now.

Richard: You didn't even offer her. Maybe she was thirsty. Getting railed is quite the cardio.

Lauren: I got her more when she was done.

Richard: Good hubby. Is there anybody else?

Lauren: Um, I probably could have too. I would say don't be afraid to talk to anybody and everybody, because not everybody wants to fuck you. Oh, very true. OK to be friendly. And I know people, not everybody, well, people want to, people like to see people who are like friendly and with a smiling face. And, you know, nobody wants to look at you like, Oh, she looks like a bitch, or, oh, he looks like an ass. People like to see friendly faces. And, you know, when we go to the events, um, people, quite a few people would come up to us and be like, because we would talk to people, even though, you know, we're like, not. Sexually interested, but we would just like, oh, hi, how are you? or blah, blah, blah. And they, they would come up to us later and be like, Hey, do you guys know what time is this? Or do you know where this is? Um, you guys seem to know what's going on here because we don't want to bother Richard and Lauren. We're like, Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know, so we would help. They're like so late. Well, thank you. You know, and they're like, Oh, thank you. You know, so I'm like, I kind of, we're like helping them out, you know, just, just be nice. And they were, you know. A couple of couples like came up to us the last few events and we were like, wow, that we walked away. We're like, oh, that was so nice. Yeah, just, just being friendly. And don't be afraid to use your words. Say no if you want to say no.

Richard: Say no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were you kind of a yes person at the beginning? Were you just like, OK, that's fine. No, but you've heard, I'm sure you've seen horror stories where people have not said. No, and then they regret it later, right? And that's my thing is

Lauren: like, even in group settings, like, you know, we would see, we would know like other people that are like, I don't want to be around this person. All right, I'm going to just kind of dive in and rescue you. And then, you know, later, I'm like, why don't you just do something?

Richard: Use your voice. But she said that she always had a voice. So how can she go back in time and tell herself, but don't be afraid to say no. This way too literally. I want to know what Dirty McFly would say to Dirty McFly. What, what would Dirty McFly say to, to younger Dirty McFly when, when she was getting into this in the beginning? I have so many names that I have to cut out of this one. I don't know why I'm being so bad. What would you tell yourself?

Lauren: What would I tell myself to tell more people to don't use their, to don't be afraid to use their words. So

Richard: you would. You would, you would tell yourself to, you, you would use your words to tell yourself, use your words, and your old self would be like, I do use my words. You'd be like, yeah, we'll tell people that. I got it. Thank you. If anybody has anything else because I can't see actually everybody, um, just speak up. And tell us because I'm about to end this.

Lauren: Uh,

Richard: hey Rich, yes, who's

Lauren: that? I just wanted to comment on something that said, uh, she said, not everybody wants to fuck you, but I mean, I'm pretty sure she's wrong to fuck her. Um, but going back to what you said at the beginning about your fantasy about blackout orgy, I think that'd be really amazing. My only caveat on that would be. Everyone would have to be by going into it. Otherwise, it'd be very confusing or very constricting or restrictive on what is happening in that room.

Richard: This is one of the reasons I don't think you have to put a label on it because I don't think you have a choice. So I don't, so it's like someone's sucking your cock, you're just getting it sucked. Yeah, I, when you, when you go in, that's what you're signing up for. I mean, not like, oh my God, I'm getting anal right now. Not like that far, but, but at the same time, I think like that's what it's made for. I think that's built into, into that scenario. Do you think that's part of the experience? I, I would think it would have to be. I think that's what's, that's what's attracting most people to that scenario, play in a way that is making them the most comfortable. Maybe they don't want to see, maybe they don't want to sort of open up and not worry about being being judged. People look. Looking at you thinking, oh my God, what? So I think that that's part of it. I don't think that anybody would go into that situation without thinking that is a possibility. Now, if it does happen and you're not comfortable with it, then I don't know how you would deal with that. Or how would you prove it that it was a man sucking your cock and not? Well, I guess when you hold their head and you're like, wow, her, her beard is really rough.

Lauren: Wow, this mouth has a lot of hair around it.

Richard: Yeah, so I don't, I don't know, I don't know how that works, but I, I would imagine it's not, it's, it's not something that, that nobody thinks about. It's not something that people walk into this thinking there's gonna be proximity. Touching here and I'm not OK with that. There's no way. That's the whole point. That's the whole point of it, right? So I think there's, there's something that's, I think there's something that's unspoken about it that is why they exist, but that's still, still not what, what scares me. It's really the smell.

Lauren: Well, I, I think I got a new thing on my

Richard: list

Lauren: now.

Richard: Wear nose plugs because that's the only answer I have is to Vicks VapoRub or yeah, or Vicks VapoRub on the oh Jesus, how was it? My vagina is stinging. It's on fire and I'm pretty sure one dude was wearing a clothesline clip on his nose.

Lauren: I don't know. It's a funny tingly feeling.

Richard: That's what I felt. Um, so many times things aren't what they seem. OK, I'll leave it on that note. All right, so, OK, none of that is gonna wind up in there. Uh, all right, Lauren is, is about to show off her fantastic new tatas that were, oh wow, you're, you're ready. You're ready. OK, they're still really high, which, yeah, they're high on cush cubes, but you have to see them and not laugh. Don't laugh at her boobs, OK.

Lauren: The

Richard: light makes them look extra, like extra high. Do you want me? I'm trying to do it like a full 360. Sweet Badger does not look impressed, which, because he went to cool.

Lauren: Well, we haven't seen the boobs yet. I just showed

Richard: them to you. Were you not looking?

Lauren: I am only seeing Richard. I've seen Richard's face this whole time. I was waiting for you to come around the camera. He's on the phone and it didn't switch over. Oh, I tried the computer and it just didn't work and you guys couldn't hear me.

Richard: OK, well, I'll walk to Richard. You have to come over here. All right, come into my office.

Lauren: Motorboat. She

Richard: can't, she can't hear you doctor here.

Lauren: Look, Lauren, can you hop around? Can you just do a couple hops? He wants you to bounce. Yeah, bounce. They don't move. I love it. I love it. You're gonna wish they don't drop. They're phenomenal titties,

Richard: Lauren.

Lauren: They are. They're great.

Richard: They're beautiful.

Lauren: He's fine,

Richard: but they didn't. He wouldn't, he wouldn't give them to me. So do you like them? I love them so much.

Lauren: They're good. That's all that matters. I love them too. Thank you. You're gonna really wish they don't drop and get smaller.

Richard: I don't know. I, I, can you go back to your station, please? earphones back. Bye.

Lauren: Tony Bum wants to know if you've lost any sensation in your nipples. No,

Richard: actually, I, um, I've never really had sensitive nipples. One of the meetings, the doctor was like, do you, how is the sensation in your nipples? Like, do you have feeling? Can you, you know, he doesn't really like rub them like this. That's our, that's our joke, as we always say like, did the doctor do the motorboat? Yeah. Did he rub them like this and say, Do you have sensation? But I actually think I have more sensation now. I have equally, if not a tiny bit more sensation than I did. And the doctor said, That's fantastic. They're healing really well. That's what he said when he rubbed his dick on my. That's how he measures. He measures. It's Mexico. It's different here. So measured

Lauren: with

Richard: his penis. Yeah,

Lauren: it's the metric system, the metric system. Purely for medicinal purposes.

Richard: Yeah,

Lauren: that's

Richard: how it is, I guess it was a language barrier,

Lauren: so, where, where do you want us to go and review these titties? Are we supposed to go on Yelp or Google Maps? Like, where's the, what's going to help you guys the most? It's like,

Richard: should we leave a Google review somewhere?

Lauren: Yeah,

Richard: yeah, exactly. That sounds fantastic. I think it is. Just not on Facebook. Just not on Facebook. Everybody, thank you so much for being here. I have a lot of work to do. No one's name will wind up in this, I promise. And thank you all for being here. Thanks

Lauren: for having us. Great seeing you all.

Richard: It is good to see your faces.

Lauren: And Lauren, again, rock and titties love them so much. Yeah, they're

Richard: great, so fun. Thank you guys. Bye. Thank you guys. And really quick before we go, flirt is open and ready to book. What are the dates? I love that you. Flirt like people know what it is by name. Flirt is our February event 2027, February 15th through the 20th of next year. Uh, come join us on Eastla Mujeres. It's amazing. Make sure you get there. You don't know if this is going to be the last one. Well, you don't know. I could be dead. Sure, it's true. I mean, would you keep doing it by yourself? I don't answer that question. It'll just depress me. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to go leave a positive review. For more information, go to room 77life.com. Thanks for stopping by room 77. We had a blast. Now get your clothes and get out.

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