Ep. 61: How To Build Support with Cock Rings, Waxing & Sexpectations

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Now we do what we love work, party, and play in the middle of paradise. Now we want to share the fun that we get to have every day. Come to room 77. Let's play.

Lauren, we We started, we have, well, you have started. Put the phone down and stop taking selfies. So this is what we're gonna do today. Today we're talking about, uh, support and people, sex.

Oh, not like jockstraps. No, we're gonna be talking about, let me go over my notes here. We're talking about, uh, support, community, homosexuality, homoeroticness, um, sex expectations, great word. Uh, we're gonna talk about converting vanillas.

We're gonna talk about waxing. Balls, we're gonna talk about cock rings in a very erratic way. We're also gonna talk about takeovers and parties and things like that. You have a question?

Your hand is up. Hold on, there's someone before you. Uh, so here we are. We're in our new place.

Does it sound different to you? I, I mean, it always sounds the same to me, right? You know, we had some budget cuts in the move. We did.

I know, my, my desk is a little bit smaller, scaled down a little bit, and here's the, you know, what the awesome thing about moving is? Nothing. There's literally nothing, and this is a true story. We had a hard time moving.

Our mover would sit on our furniture and tell us how tired he was. That is not a good sign when your mover does that. All right, all right, great. I understand you're tired.

Let's go. And then I would start helping him and his family, and I'm not even gonna get into that second. One of the reasons we wanted to talk about community was we actually had a really tough, the last 9 months of our lives have been one of the hardest years of my entire life. That's, that's really hard to say because I would have never expected that to happen because you come to Mexico on the brochure.

You say, oh, I wanna live there because I wanna spend time on the beach and then you get here turns out everything in Mexico does not function like the lobby of a hotel. Oh my God, can you imagine? There's a lot of things that, that had happened. Uh, we lost our last place because of a lot of really weird things and then moving into this.

Place and this is something that that affects us all as lifestylers and and swingers, we were once again, like a lot of us go through in this lifestyle, almost lost this place again due to discrimination. What had happened was the people here, and I'm gonna call, I'm gonna call the ASLU, which is the American Swingers' Liberties Union. I'm gonna file a lawsuit because I feel like we're discriminated against. They had found out about our podcast and they had called the owners here and said, Listen, we will not live next to these heathens.

Yeah, like horrible people. We will not live next to these heathens. We found out about them. We had a conversation with them.

We're like, Oh, you're moving in. You're great. They talked to us and, and got all this information. Unbeknownst to us, they took all of that information, went to Google.

Uh, uh, researched us like we were on an episode of NCIS and downloaded all of our information, created dossiers, handed that to the owners of the property, and said, we will not live next to these disgusting people. The day after we had moved in, it's this family that's in there and there's like a, a mom and then their grandparents and then this, this little kid, I don't know, he's 5. I, I don't know kids' ages. It's either like baby 5 or 15.

I have 3 ages for kids. I don't, I don't really know what ages kindergarten. They're crawling around or like, I don't know, high school prom. Yeah, that's all I have.

So, uh, so to me he's 5 and, uh, so he's like a 5 year old kid. We can see sort of into their house from, from where we live, right? Not like in, in a creepy way, but like in there's a door like you can look into and, uh, I was. Sort of moving some stuff around and I watched Grandpa, who looks a lot like a, a TV evangelist.

He looks like an evangelist, evangelist, yeah, who's like, let's cast the TV evangelist, and he shows up for the audition. Yeah, like at night if it's dark, I feel like I'm gonna turn a corner. He's gonna slap me across the head with a Bible at any moment. You better stop sinning, boy.

You better. That's what he looks like. I was the day after we moved. Moved in.

I watched him beat the living shit out of this little boy. I mean, screaming, beat the crap out of him. And neither one of us came from that. So it's a little bit, well, it was jolting, right, because I just sort of watched it and thought to myself, but, there's nothing I could say about that.

I mean, as much as I would love to walk out there and slap this fucker around, right? The point is, is it was inside. It was. Inside of their home.

You have no right to project that kind of belief system, but they felt the need and entitlement entitlement that they could create some sort of actual, actual reason to reach out to the landlord that our actions under our roof was good enough for them not to live next to us, and I really hope that they're listening. Really, but this brought up a lot of comments about support. Number one, I wanna say in these hard times, really to you because you are the most wonderful human being in the world, and I never, ever, ever would ever be able to make it through life without you. And I mean that you are my strength, you are my light.

I can't imagine doing any of this without you. Our friend who is just in town stopped by and I pointed to the Airbnb. Before we knew what we were gonna do, I said that's where we stayed when we arrived in Mexico. We had no idea what we were gonna do.

And she said, that has to be one of the ballsiest moves. She said, I can't even wrap my head around, I'm gonna sell all my shit and move to Mexico. And I said, I can't either. I said, and I gotta be honest with you, there's no way I would do any of this without Lauren.

Because she is just absolutely fearless. She is my strength in that, I want to thank you for that because through all of this, you make me fearless. I don't even know how you do because it's, it's strange because you, you sometimes say you're not a strong person, but you are, you, you give me such strength and you, you make me feel like a superhero sometimes. So thank you.

That made me think about the support that we get through the community and uh we want to dedicate this to the Patreons, which uh is where we get a lot of support and we used to do these, uh, you know, these rapid-fire questions at desire. We used to hear the voices of, of the people. Yes, I know. I missed that.

So we wanted to hear some of the voices from the people, the Patreons who support us, and it gives people who are listening a chance to hear other people who are just like them. These people are just like you, except these people are just a little bit better because they support us. And give us a little monthly make this free podcast that you enjoy. Sometimes people reach out when they're traveling, going, and they're like, Hey, because everybody's looking for a deal.

Hey, listen, what do I get if I use you to travel? I've, I write a long, I would write a long email listing like 10 different things, and you wrote what? I was like, you, well, you get a warm feeling in your heart spot because, you know, it's like there's everyone is doing the same thing, you know, even Expedia to it. Agree, and there's a commission for everybody, so why not support someone whose lifestyle, and then, you know, we also live here.

We know everything about the hotel and what's happening and stuff. We're just, we're here. I'm here for you. Y'all help us.

We hope, we, we help you. So we want to get into these questions first, really quickly. We are on our way to Antigua very, very soon. I'm so excited.

While we're going to this one, we have a new one, a new takeover that we're announcing this week. And you have to, uh, stay tuned because this one is in Mexico awesome late February. Uh, we're really, really excited about this one. The hotel seems awesome.

We are not officially announcing it yet, but it will be announced next week. Make sure to go to the website, go to room 77life.com. I'm gonna put it right up there on the home page, the landing page, so everything will be right there. We're gonna put a few pictures up just to start with, and for the first deposit, whoever is the first person.

Put a deposit down, we're gonna give you 15% off the first junior suite. So whoever is first, because we really don't know when we're gonna officially announce it, it's gonna be one day next week, uh, we'll give you 15% off the junior suite. Check it out. Make sure you're the first so you get a hold of that deal.

Take a look at the place. The place looks awesome. There'll be more pictures and more details to come. I don't even think we have a name yet, really, do we?

I don't know if we're gonna name it the same thing. It's just, uh, yeah, I'll give you a hint. It's an island party. It's gonna be amazing.

I'm, I'm really looking forward to it. Uh, let's get on with these questions. We're gonna hear some of these, and then we're gonna, we're gonna answer. Yeah, yeah.

This is Mike from Oakland. I just wanna give a shout out to Lauren. She's been a fantastic resource for booking our lifestyle travel, and she's the reason why we listen to the show. Love you, Lauren.

My beautiful wife and I have been in the lifestyle for a year now. It has added so much spice to our relationship. We love it. Now my question is, How much sex is the right amount of sex for a lifestyle destination event?

Whether it's like a resort or a takeover like Summer bang. We went to Desire for the first time this year, and we were expecting to get laid every night. We, we really had high expectations for a high amount of sex, and that didn't really happen. The first night, we met an amazing couple and really had the best lifestyle sex that we've had.

And then we ended up leaving with a couple of days of a dry spell and OK sex here and there. We ended up getting really frustrated, we were questioning ourselves in terms of, are we doing this right? Should we be doing more, should we be doing less? It was just a little difficult to navigate.

In retrospect, it feels like we did the best we could, we still had a blast with each other. We think we put a little bit, Too much pressure on ourselves to have sex every day. So what kind of expectations should someone put on a lifestyle event where you're spending a lot of money, you're going to a certain destination, you've got your costumes ready, you got your lube ready, you're all set. How much sex is the right amount of sex?

I'm curious to hear what you guys think. OK, so there is a lot to unpack. Well, the question's based. Basically our our sex expectations, which I promised, uh, Mike I would use.

It's actually a good question. It's a great question. The short answer is this. This is really short for us.

I would say every single time we go to a takeover or a resort, usually there is an average of, uh, someplace like Desire usually has an average, an average, this is just an average of about 80 couples, uh, that would be. either sold out or almost sold out, about 80 couples. I'd say there's about 2 or 3 couples that we'd be interested in physically attracted to or clicked with. Yeah, whoever we had chemistry with.

Out of all of those couples, about 2 or 3 that you wind up going, I'd get naked with them. With that being said, timelines have to add up. There's a lot of things that have to happen now for all of those things to. To line up, are they hooking up with other people?

Are they even in the lifestyle? Because a lot of people don't understand that a lot of these people are not fully in the lifestyle. Were you justified in thinking that you would have sex every single day with a different couple, You gave yourself really, really strange, uh, and high expectations. Here's the rule of thumb that we give for anybody that is going a takeover or an event.

Treat the crowd and the expectations of hooking up like the weather. You cannot plan it. You have no idea what the people are gonna be like. You have no idea what the vibe is gonna be like.

There is no way that you can secure it. You have to pay for that trip. Is it gonna rain? Maybe, but you're not getting your money back.

It doesn't matter. So you better figure something else out that is going to prioritize your good time. And it can't be about specifically how many times you have sex with another couple or how many couples you have sex with at that event. For us, it's like a lot of it is the hunt and the chase and the thrill of flirting together and really enjoying the fun of the conversation and, and seeing what people are interested in and pushing them and pushing their boundaries and You know, just all of that stuff is, is fun and fulfilling.

As well, but to have those expectations that all that sex is gonna be fulfilled, you need to go to something like Pat Diage, maybe. I mean, but now you're talking about a European culture which is completely, well, you're talking about just sex with strange, like just going and, and just like I just wanna have sex. Well, you don't know, but yeah, I mean, I think it's, you don't know, but you're now you're telling people to go to copt just because you, you don't know. You, you just send somebody to fucking France.

And told them that they're gonna have sex with strangers. You don't know. You have no idea what their experience is gonna be like there. Don't say that.

They could wind up there with a bunch of people and go, you sent me to France, and I hated everyone. So that might not be their thing either. The, the thing is this, is, let's say you went on that desire vacation and you did have sex every day, and every day you had sex with another couple, and every day it was a disaster. One day you got an STI.

The next day the couple got a divorce and left the hotel. The next day you couldn't get an erection. The next day, and, and you just kept getting piled on with bad experience after bad experience after bad experience. By the end of that thing, you were huddled up in a corner.

Well, I give you a vacation where you did have a sexual experience with a couple every single day. Yeah, you check the box. So did you get your money's worth? Did you have fun?

Did you have fun? I mean, you need years of therapy to make up for it. Alright, so what you should do is, what Lauren, bring a, bring a prostitute. Yes, no, wait, what?

Oh no. All right, bring two prostitutes, a harem. This is what harems are good for. It ensures a good time.

Harems by room 77. The heroin party instead of focusing on sex as the validating factor of your vacation to use your experiences with each other as the validating factor for your trip. And then if you're not having connections or cliques because like you said, it's the weather, no one knows what it's going to be like push yourself to try new things, to push out of your own boundaries. So maybe you try the exhibitionism or maybe you know you leave your doors open, you do it on the patio.

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say too is like is like don't take it too seriously like when you are when you're failing and you feel like I'm failing like this is the time to like fail big like let's try to land this couple or you know there's nothing wrong with laughing at your own failures like. Yeah, for sure they hated us and sometimes, yes, you pay a lot of money to not get laid. Being able to be in that environment is what you pay for. Actually a good point.

It is a niche targeted audience, and that is what you are paying for there. It is definitely not the food. So if you want to get laid, then there are other ways. Craigslist.

Yeah All right, next question. Hey y'all, so we have been in the lifestyle for about 8 years. Little fun fact is that our first trip to Pearl was actually for our honeymoon, and since then, all of my bicycles that I ever buy are named after playmakers. So that I can symbolically ride them.

My question for you is this, have you ever successfully played with or converted vanillas? And if so, how? I need to know. I thought it was gonna be, have you ever played with a playmaker?

And I was like, please make the 5th. Uh, um, alright, so we're gonna pause for just one minute because we are talking about supporters. I wanted to tell everybody a little story about a couple from the Midwest. They had a big dream about a little tiny bikini.

It was Bikini Addiction, and we met this couple at Temptation and talked about bikini. They had been supporting us ever since, and we became very loyal supporters of them, and we dropped button. We said, well, we only want to be with you. We only love you.

We only have eyes for your bikini. How do we prove our love to you? This is what we're gonna do. We hired assassins.

And put hits out on other bikini companies and they're such good people. They're going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's too much, that's too much. And we said, well, how can we show our love and they said it's easy and we said, how? And they said, just go sell more bikinis.

We said, oh well, that seems much easier. That's a lot less dying. So how do they do that, Lauren? Go to bikiniadddiction.com.

They have one style of top and 4 styles of bottoms, and so you just go pick the bottom that fits your butt the best. Like if you get it and it doesn't fit how you think it would, they're pretty lenient about send it back. They want you to be happy, get addicted. Also, if you have, like I've had a rhinestone in my tea bag fall out before and they have said send it back.

Replace it. They have these little rhinestones in the tea back bikinis. So if one falls out like during volleyball or you're coming home from the hot tub or it's getting wadded up, being put in your pocket, or it's being used as a ball gag, they will put the rhinestone back in. And I don't know if anybody knows that this is true.

All the stones that they use at Bikini Addiction conflict-free. That's amazing. You show your ass with a free conscience. That's important.

That's why we support them. Don't forget to go. To bikiniaddiction.com, save 10% with Room 77 as the promo code, tag at Bikini Addiction and Room 77 podcast, and we will see your butts on Instagram. The answer to the first part of that is yes, of course we have, we have played with vanillas many, many times.

Yeah, when she means convert, does she mean convert for the night? I don't know. I would take it as, have we converted them to, oh, well, I'm in the lifestyle now, so I am now, a swinger. That's how I.

Take it, but as far as swing converting a vanilla for the night, I'd say it's pretty easy, uh, but she wants to know how, as far as converting them into the lifestyle, I'd say it's a little bit harder. Uh, it's a little bit more, more difficult. We talked about this, I think, before. It's like step one, have a jacuzzi because you always have to have something to invite them over for.

Every swinger knows that. I mean, step one, get a body of water. Yeah, we used to do that, not like tag team, but sort of. Just pushing people's buttons to see how they would respond to certain things we would say.

That's step one, right? First step one, like if we would be out with a vanilla couple or we would be out with, with a vanilla, uh, saying things like, Well, you could have it, my wife, if you ever want to borrow at my wife, or if you, if you guys wanna borrow my wife, if you want to, if you want to take her for a spin around the block, let her know. Or I was in bed with Lauren last night, you know what, if you want to try it right now, have at it. And Lauren would jump in and the reaction that she would always get wasn't always like, Richard, it was always like, yeah guys, let me know right now and I'll go, we'll go in the back starting to get full.

The waiter just booked using our sense of humor to allow them to feel relaxed. But the most important thing in all of this was feeling unjudged or safe. It's very like being having a one night stand with, with, with a person the next day where you have to convince the person all of this. This is no strings attached.

If you can convince that vanilla, we're not getting a divorce because of this, I promise you, my husband is not going to start sending you flowers. This does not mean anything. Once that person feels safe, it becomes a lot more comfortable for the vanilla to do things with a married couple than it does with a single because they feel safe on their end because they're like, well, this is obviously not going anywhere because this marriage is solid. Like this is a solid, solid marriage.

So the more solid that the marriage feels with the vanilla couple or the vanilla person, the more chances you have to flip that couple. The more it feels like it's coming from one side of the relationship, the less chance you have of it to happen, because when it feels like it's a secret coming from one side, it starts to feel like an affair. This is how you flip a, a vanilla. I'm gonna give you the lesson right now.

You look a vanilla in the eye and you say, take your pants off. I'm laughing, but there is some truth in that. Take your pants off. I'm gonna touch your no, no spot now.

If you see, if you say no, no spot, they automatically feel safe. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't feel dirty or disgusting or anything. Well, it's something that we learned when we were given safety lessons. Here's, here's the other to flip people get naked in front of them.

When I was a kid. You could flash anybody, you know, I used to walk down the street and just, I just used to take my dick out, you know, that's how you do it. You're like, Hey lady, look at my cock. Yeah.

And then she used to go to the police, say, he showed me, he showed me his cock, and the police would be like, Hey sir, don't do that, you know. But now you got arrested. That's not cool. Back then, a slap on the hand.

Maybe a thank you, lady. How many times did you see a cock today? You took a picture of it. Couldn't have been that upsetting.

You got your phone out, twenty-minute video. Could have been that upset. Now you're reporting it, you know, just be honest. Don't make people feel, feel creepy.

Like it's like it's a creepy thing. Hello, Richard and Lauren. It's Mark from Central Texas. I started listening to your podcast about 3 years ago.

Uh, I've been a Patreon for nearly 2 years. So many neat things have happened to me since finding you guys. I got divorced. I moved houses twice.

I met a fabulous lady after the divorce, and we've subsequently broken up. I've been a guest on your podcast, which was a first for me. I've never been on a podcast before. I went to Antigua last year, where I got to meet you both in Person for the first time.

I participated in your workshop. So many, so many good things. And Richard, I hope you remember this, in Antigua last year, you brought me out onto the dance floor. You said some really nice things, and you gave me a cookie, and that was really fun.

So my question is, since starting the podcast, how many people do you think you've influenced to join the lifestyle? Thanks, guys. Hope you have a great day. Love you.

How many people have we influenced? 77 is the right. Number that's exactly how many we've influenced. I keep a list.

The number 7. I just feel like, um, to join the lifestyle is, is a big to do, and I don't feel that influential. I'm a huge influencer. That's what I, that's what I tell people they do now.

They say, What do you do for a living? I say, I'm an influencer. Then they say, influencing what? And I say sex, and then they say, how do you make money?

And I say volume. If you don't get that joke, then go look up an SNL skit from the 80s called Making Change. I can't believe it. It's so great.

Is that finished? I'm very small attention span today. OK, apparently that's all you get. We get 7.

I, I, I really don't know. We get, we get messages all the time that claiming that we've helped people, uh, but we send back a cease and desist letter and a restraining order. One of the things that we have done in, in the past is we've created another podcast called Gypsy and a Gentleman with our wonderful friends Gypsy and Rick, and this next question comes from our good friend Rick over at Gypsy and a Gentleman. If you haven't gone over and listened to their podcast, we're very, very.

Proud of. Um, we love them dearly. This next question comes from my super, super straight friend, Rick. Hi, Richard and Lauren, I'm Rick from Gypsy and a Gentleman.

I've been a Patreon for longer than I've been in lifestyle. I found your podcast while Living on Mars, and it changed my life. I love you both, but my question is for the beautiful, Miss Lauren. Being married to a closet homosexual, I'm sure has its challenges.

When Richard is infatuated with and making googly eyes at another man and wants nothing. But to take a shower with him just before taking him to bed, how do you reconcile that? I'm just kidding. My real question is, how do y'all keep coming up with funky ass shit like every single day?

If you don't get the reference, I fear we may not be able to be friends anymore. But I'd still be willing to give Zac Efron a double blowjob with Richard. I know he's always down for a Zack attack. Again, a lot to unpack here.

I know, I feel like you should have paused it to get my reaction on the first part. No, it's, it's, uh, it's fine. I love Rick and I want to do homosexual things to him and he's just not ready for it yet, which I understand. I get it.

I'm going to keep wearing him down, but his, his, his question was for you, really. And do you know where that reference is from? That's my Snoop Dogg. He's talking about coming up with funky ass shit like every single day.

Oh, see, I knew you would know. I don't know if that is actually a legitimate question. I don't know if we do come up with funky ass shit every day. We do have some good ideas like their podcast was a good idea and uh yeah, go listen to that one.

In fact, stop listening to this right now. Go listen to Gypsy and a Gentleman. Who's next? This is Kevin from Bye Bye Birdies.

My wife is Heather. She's not here right now. Richard, I was just thinking that I think you need to do an instructional video on how to put a cock ring on properly. You've talked about it, but I've never seen you do it, and I've tried to do it, and it's not an easy thing.

So I think there's a lot of people out there that would benefit from it. Thanks. You know, I have done this before. I did it on the side of the jacuzzi at Desire a few times, and then I found it was so effective at getting sex from people that I kept doing it over and over again.

It's like a baby tiger. Yeah, it is. What does that mean? Like when people buy a baby tiger to walk in the park so that they get the girl.

I'm gonna. Pause you for a second. You know people who bought a baby tiger, and you've seen people walk it in a park. You just made that up.

No in LA did it. Oh my God, yeah, like to date anyway, if you want to relate somebody buying a baby tiger and me putting on a cock ring, OK, here's the thing, uh, yeah, so I used to say, hey, this is how you put a cock ring on. What happens is, is they're just mesmerized by a guy just handling his junk. With a bunch of oil that they kind of get horned up by it and they're like I wanna try that too and then I get to say I'll help you.

Like it's a great icebreaker once you learn the art of installing the cock ring. To me it's, it's, uh, it's awkward, pretty easy. What do you need? Tell us some things you need.

Uh, you need ball bearings and, OK, ball bearings, gauze pads and some 10W-30. Quaker State. No Pennzoil. No, Quaker State.

Uh, yeah, you just need some oil or some lube, very, very important, and, uh, you just gotta, I do balls first, right, and you do one ball at a time, and then you put one ball through. This is, and this is the silver one, not that, uh, rubbery ones, because that's obviously you just put those on like a rubber band. I don't know. Yeah, this is the steel stainless steel ones.

I'm all, it's making me put one testicle through first and then you put the other one through. You gotta poke that one through almost like you're making pizza dough and you gotta poke it through with your fingers, yeah, yeah. So now what if you could just envision it, your cock is on one side, your both your testicles are poking through the other side, right? And you gotta put, imagine like you have olive oil all over your hands and your two testicles.

Are coming through the other side like dough. I feel like I'm putting on a sock now. It's like sewing. Now you gotta be like a seamstress, right?

You gotta get your cock through the space that's left. Your testicles are in the ring. They're through already, and I'm pulling it up, yeah, which if you're doing it correctly, you're getting a little aroused a little bit. So you gotta make sure, by the way, if you're not doing the show and you're in.

Exhibitionist that you're not showing everybody and there's not some hot lady there like oh my God, this is, I love watching you play with your cock like that and then you start getting hard and you're like well I can't put it on because you can't be hard and put a cock ring on because you have to bend over your penis. That's what, yeah, like you have to bend it to push it through. That's gotta be malleable for me, malleable. You're having a lot of pronunciation troubles today.

We get it. So you have to flip it over and push it through. Uh, the next question is. Hi, this is Linda, and this is Keith from Dub 8.

The dub is for me because I'm from Dublin and the Don is for me because I'm from London. And the 8 is a curvy, lovely number that we really like and enjoy because it doesn't really have any end, much like the orgy we're hoping to participate in at some point this year. And we have a question. Richard, do you wax your balls asking for a friend?

Me. These are the things that I, I got out of there that, uh, never ending orgy is, uh, a possibility. Yeah, this year he gave it a timestamp. Yeah, that's a thing.

I already have a song written for it, the never ending orgy. The never ending goal. Oh gee, the dog always leaves when we start. It's not a good sign that I, that the dog is leaving the room.

He's like, you know what, I'm gonna go sit on the couch. Oh, here they go harmonizing again. Do I wax my balls? It is a great question because I was just thinking about this the other day because I was having a problems.

We were so busy that I couldn't groom myself and I was so hairy that you were not allowed to touch me, and I was like, I, I cannot take myself. We were supposed to. Lasered like a year ago and we never got around to it and I was just looking down at my giant merkin and I was like this just has to fucking stop. I do not wax myself.

I do shave my testicles right with a razor, like a leg razor, a face razor. No, it's a leg razor for you. I'm always shaving my balls at any chance I get. We used to ask people like shave my balls.

Oh no. Well like we just ask people, are your balls shaved? Are you lasered? What do you do?

Yeah, I listen. I love shaved balls. I really do. They should be smooth.

They should have been made smooth. I don't know from the beginning. I don't know why. I'm gonna ask our neighbors to ask God why, uh, they have a direct line, yeah, why they didn't come, come that way, you know.

The gays are bringing back hair, and I'm not a fan. OK, good, because I'm not a fan either. I don't know what to do. I just want to sit the gays down and say stop it.

I think for you we just need to uh knock you out like the dentist. If they just had that at the laser place we could knock you out and laser you and get you done. I, I don't know. I gotta feel what it's gonna feel like first on my, you have to do it on your scrotum.

It won't feel anywhere else. It's the same. Well, I gotta feel where somewhere else first. I, I can't start on my scrotum.

Yes, you have to. I'd be like, uh, hey, have you ever been kicked before? Uh, no. Why don't you start with my balls?

Who would do that? Who? It's gonna feel different at each place. Who would say that.

No one would say that. Yes, you have to. No one in, in the world says, Is this really hot? I don't know.

Press it up to my balls. No one says that. Hold on, let me whip my balls out. So, uh, maybe I could ask somebody.

I know people have had it done before. Is pain and the size of, of, of my cock are not conducive in my best state. Oh, I see what you mean, right? I, I'm sure I'm gonna be shriveled up like they're looking at such a small portion.

It's like a, yeah, they will be. It's like a band-aid to them. They're just stretched in on a certain point with a little laser. Like they're moving around gradually.

Like they're not looking at it like an object as a thing. They're up on it. Like a surgeon is one part of your chest is open. He's not like looking at you like a, well, his chest muscles are uneven.

No, no, no, it just sounded like a weird. The guy that I showed you on that, that, that swinger site that sent us, uh, uh, he was like, hey, you guys wanna get together and I'm like, Jesus Christ, look at his penis. Like if I had that penis, I would have been lasered years ago just to be like, hey everyone, I want you to see every part. Do you even want to be lasered?

Nope, just wanted everyone to see my cock. I go to any appointment where I have to take my cock out. I want all of it. I get my prostate checked 13 times a month.

Yeah, that's what I do. I've Been lifting some really heavy stuff. Can you check me for a hernia again today? Um, the answer to the question is, no, my balls are not waxed.

These are the things that we learned. So no waxing, obviously that was the last one. don't have sex expectations because it ruins everything. Uh, how do we come up with funky ass shit?

Uh, we're just awesome. Uh, how do we influence people? Uh, drugs, we get them drunk and we, we use drugs. Cock rings, what's the trick?

Uh, lots of lube. Definitely, definitely. Assistance is fun. Turning vanillas, um, it's just, you know, things.

Serial killer, get their trust first and then attack. What? I'm just saying that's how they do it. That's how every one of them does it.

I think you can be flirty with Everybody just tuned out and went and listened to Gypsy and Gentlemen, and they tuned back in. I'm just condensing it down for them now so they don't have to go back and listen. Uh, if you want to turn vanillas, think like a serial killer, get them to trust you, and then attack. That's, that's it.

That's all you need to know. If, if they're really serious about this, they'll, they'll understand what I'm saying. Alright, so obviously this is dedicated to the people who uh supported us, and I wanna say thank you so much, especially to you, Lauren, who have supported me in all of this, who is the biggest supporter of all of them, really, because you have to deal with me on a day in, day out basis, which is fucking impossible. No, you're not.

Someday they're gonna get the tapes of this, the outtakes, and you're gonna be like, oh my God, you poor thing. I'm glad we rescued her. Yeah, someone should have called 911. The, the patreons who asked all of these wonderful questions, it's, they are just the same as you regular listeners, but they're better, you know.

They weren't born better. They paid to be better. That's right, and you too can be better, just a little shinier, just go pay and be better. That's all you have to do.

Go to, go to patreon.com/room. 77 and you too could be better that fast just for like $2. Give up a coffee and come uh support us and uh and then you can ask us a question. You know who's better?

These people Keith, Zach, Sid, Steve, Steven, Northwest sexy couple, Honeyspoon, Peter, Chris Fit, Dominic 88, our Aussies, uh, aloha, Hawaii, R&B babies, K and J 802, Devon also. This was not a Patreon, but she emailed us and said, I don't want to join Patreon. I just want to give you a little money. And, and she's Venmoed us like 4 months in a row.

Yeah, I don't. This is the opposite of a stalker. This is like a stalker that wants nothing, nothing, but keeps giving us stuff. She doesn't even return my emails anymore.

I don't get it. She's a superhero. I love her. She doesn't want her name mentioned.

She's a true philanthropist, so thank you very much. We're super grateful and we're glad you like us. Yeah, thank you very much. Alright, Lauren, that is about it.

I know I said that this episode was gonna be all about pegging, uh, but obviously it was not. We have wound up pegging you by not giving you a pegging episode. I'm sorry about, we will get around to that, but thank you all for sticking with us. We really appreciate it.

We will be back next time with an entire episode about pegging. You should get pegged in Antigua and then we'll talk about it. I don't know. I don't know, pegging, having a pegging party in Antigo, but I, I don't know how that would work.

Yeah, I don't wanna scare the people. Yeah, I don't wanna scare the people, but you know, again, if we just get them to trust us first. Nice, nice. See what I'm doing here?

Yeah, I do. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to go leave a positive review. For more information, go to room 77life.com. Thanks for stopping by room 77.

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