Ep. 11: First Timers, Old Timers, and Vanilla Resort Refugees

This podcast contains explicit content, language, and sexual situations. It is intended for adults 18 years of age and older. Views, thoughts and opinions expressed are not those of any specific employer, group, or individual. Fed up with the rat race, we decided to sell everything and move to Cancun, Mexico.

Now we do what we love, work, party, and play at the Desire resort. After 15 years in a lifestyle together, we thought we saw it all, but we were so wrong, so wrong. Oh my God, so wrong. Now we want to share the fun that we get to have every day.

So come to room 77. Let's play. All right, well, we started, I, I think I don't know. I've lost all control of the sound system and the computer and everything, so all right, I'm revoking your name of Doctor Dre.

No, I am Doctor Dre. Drey Dre. Dr. J, whatever his name is, Beyonce's husband.

No, that's not, that's not the right guy. No, Jay-Z. That's Jay Z, right? That is Hova.

But also a very good music maker. I'm sure he knows how to make a soundboard or make a soundboard work. Yeah. What did you just look at whatever's on the TV now.

He's sitting on the TV. It's like a grasshopper, not like Ralph Macchio grasshopper. You get easily distracted. That's.

That's what annoys me. You're still looking at it because it's huge. No, I understand, but this is what annoys me about you when we're going places like from point A to point B is how distracted you get. You sort of start looking off into the distance.

Like I've seen something, yeah, like you're having a revelation that you've come up with some sort of formula for the discovery of dark matter, something, and then I ask you what, and you go. No I don't move as efficiently as you do, and that's OK. It's really not OK. It's OK in my world.

I try. I try. So here's the problems that we have this week is too much Nicorette now. With more on the way, so we're going to fatally die of Nicorette overdose.

Oh, and a lot of people walking up to us with a shirt on with no pants. Oh my God, the group, they preplanned this in the pool. I was in on it. They said, Don't tell Rich.

We're all going to take our pants off and walk into the workshop, and I had to videotape it. I really, I was so, I had no idea what was going on. I just couldn't understand why everybody's fucking pants were off. I, I was so like, I don't know what's going on.

Just get into the workshop. I'll sort this out later. If there's a guest there, he only spoke Spanish. The guys that were choreographing the whole shenanigan were like, you have to take your pants off before you go in the workshop.

And he's like, What? OK. Like it was just so endearing. Like he's just like, this, I'm ready for the workshop.

Not actually something you have to do. But he did it anyway, so bless his heart. God bless him. So this week we met a really sweet couple that reminded us of us, sort of in a way back in the day, minus body mass index because not a drop of fat.

She was lovely. Like I was just obsessed with her legs. I think what was cool with them is they were not in this world at all. And we say that often where we're like, this, this person, well, they're not in the lifestyle.

They're not. This was different because they were here in Mexico at a very vanilla hotel, family resort. They decided to switch hotels and said, Hey, what's that? And just showed up at Desire.

So they sort of had this look of fear and excitement that was sort of going on at the same time. I don't know. I was just really drawn to them. They, they were sitting in one of the circle beds, like, what's your workshop about?

Came, came to the workshop. I actually didn't think they were going to make it to the workshop. Why did you think they wouldn't show up? Usually the younger, more attractive brood, brood, is that the right word?

I don't know. I mean, it sounds right. All right, let's just go with brood. Sometimes tend to just stay down by the pool and drink rather than experience the divine pleasure that we offer.

Not that you're again, not making judgments. And, and this is again, we have said this before, we don't judge a book by its cover. It's difficult to see somebody and make a judgment about them. Based on just what you see, when I saw them, I was like, Oh, these two whores.

They, these two, these are sex animals. I can see it in their eyes. And then you meet them and they're like, No, we have no idea what we're doing. We barely know where we are.

Come to find out that they're not whores at all. Not that we make judgments, but you were making a judgment. I, your brain does it. You're just, your brain does it.

You're like, but you thought that they were the whole class. I didn't know. Oh, no, we didn't know. I found out after the workshop.

They told me the whole story while we were in the back there making out. I'm just kidding. So then I invited them down to have coffee, which also means sex is on. Yeah, no, and I promised I was like, I'm not going to try anything with these, these kids, right?

I'm not doing it. I'm not I just wanted to talk to them because they were just wide-eyed. I like wide-eyed. Did you want to take them under your wing, or did you want to, no one should follow directions from me or you ever.

Ever, never. They just showed up and that's what I love because it reminded me of when we first came there. They weren't kicking or whatever. I don't know what the kids say, kicking it.

That's what I would say if I were on it. Don't try to act young. OK, so then from coffee dinner because I was not done talking to them and we were like, all right, well we're going to eat and they're like, All right, well we haven't eaten. We're like, Well, do you have plans?

They're like, No, we'll do whatever you want to do. First day there, they went and changed and the little restaurant was. Closed because the Germans occupied. That sounds horrible.

Let's, let's take that out. Well, it's true. The Germans were occupying the buffet area. It was World War buffet.

It was closed, so it was a little World War II-ish going on in there. They, the Germans had occupied that restaurant and we could not pass. So we had to go to Japan, Japan, but we did. The irony is we went and had Japanese food during the German occupation.

But, uh, yeah, so then we talked to them, talked to them through dinner, had a wonderful conversation the whole time. And uh we were Audi. I mean, we were like, uh, listen, peace out. Good luck, wear a condom.

It's probably not gonna happen, but, uh, good luck. And then uh we were walking out the door and he was like, hey, man, you, you guys want to grab a smoke? And we said, he said, yeah, he said, uh, mine are back in my room. Do you want to go back to my room and have a cigarette?

And I was like, this is happening in reverse. But still, I was like, yeah, we are going back there, but I'm telling you right now, like we're not doing anything with you guys because we're disgusting. You're clean, we are soiled. Well, it was, it was our first day of the week too of work.

If we party that night, we're screwed for the rest of the week. We're screwed. So the good news is, is we stayed and partied. No, but we stayed.

I think we only had like one drink. We sat and talked and talked and talked. Then he said, you know, one of the reasons that I enjoyed the workshop so much is I had asked my wife what was her sexual fantasy. Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that.

And she said, Having a bunch of hands all over me, being touched by more than one person. That's why he was hard the whole workshop, which you gave him shit. I didn't give him shit for. I was just like, I, I enjoy watching that because when it's the woman's day, right, and she's getting all of this pleasure to watch the man who's giving unconditional love to his partner, and he's hard the entire time, that is amazing because then she should know that he's truly getting pleasure, giving her pleasure.

That's why I love seeing it. No, it was very, I mean, you can make fun of me. All you want, I will, but you're just mean. This is what I'm talking about.

This is why I'm leaving you, and I hate that you have to find out this way. But this is, this is the reason why. Are you just leaving or are we getting a divorce? Yeah, I got to go to the store.

I'm out of juice. OK, juice. So he says, what does he say? Hey, hey, lady.

He goes, All right, I'm just gonna throw this out there, and you can say no or whatever, but I'm. And just thinking like what if we all did again where we just all touched my wife and we just rub her and we had already like, you know, they had already told us their boundaries and stuff. So like that's not true. We gave them their boundaries.

I was like, listen to me, right? These are your boundaries. These are your boundaries, kids. You're not going to kiss.

There's no penetration, no oral, no oral. We're all going to rub each other. I mean, they did break a few rules of our rules that we gave them. Rules that we gave them.

We gave them rules they're like, well, can we and talk about this guy happened to be one of the most consensual human beings that I've ever met. If there's a such thing as being over consensual, if they weren't so new, I would have been like, stop asking. Just do it. It was, yeah, he was just like, do you mind if I put my hand here?

Is it OK over here? Is this, is it OK if I fluff this pillow? It's very adorable. And then we, but we were asking him like, is she OK?

Yeah, because she, he was saying everything and she, she was so quiet. But yeah, they were sweet and it was very sexy and here we are again doing bad things to good people. So there you have it. Oh God, newbies to oldies.

Speaking of oldies, this week, well, that week, one of the weeks, I don't know, they all blend together was the whole, uh, podcast takeover thing. We're, we're sort of drugged into it like a violent tornado, kidnapping. Yeah, talk about seasoned professionals. Yeah, it's good people though, and that doesn't mean a bad thing to be seasoned bunch of whores.

It was a big group. It was a big group. But yeah, I mean they're, they're really wonderful people that they, they bring there. I know we met other podcasters there, by the bye, and by the bye gave me a towel, a cum rag.

That's not a cum rag. That's so fucking insulting. It says cum rag on it. It's embroidered in there.

Yes. Oh. It's, it's so cute. He's like, I made my own cum rags.

I'm like, that's fucking amazing. I'm going to go jerk off in it tonight. I had no idea. And they made their own suntan lotion.

I did not get any of the suntan lotion. I told him I'm up to here with suntan lotion. Oh, bed hoppers, those bastards, they really make me laugh. If you are listening to this and you, you sort of like dry sense of humor, yeah, I mean, in ours, it's really, it's a good sense of humor with them it's a really bad sense of humor, but you should still try them out.

Um, that's Naughty Escapades was there. Oh, he was so cute about the Friday workshop. He like came running. Naughty Escapades is the crack in my vein.

Like they give you energy. Again, kids don't do crack. I went Friday early to get everything set up because we had to do an extra, and he came in like running and like found me and he was like, Are you doing a sign up? I'm like, Yeah, we're doing a sign up.

Can we do the early class? I'm like, yeah. And we never did a sign up before. This is the first time because we did two thanks to uh swinging down under.

Again, we're not part of this event. No, just sort of sucked in, like, like a black hole, but they, they had come to us and said, we want to help you do 2 classes. What do you need to do? I don't know if anybody knows this.

God bless desire, but when it comes to planning things, I mean, efficient. isn't really, it's not their jam. So, uh, getting things to happen sometimes is, it's can be insanely difficult, especially when it's in the same day. Yeah, and we don't work for desire, like we have no pull there whatsoever.

They don't pay us a dime. They don't pay us a nickel. So everybody's clear, we literally make our money by the generosity of the people who come to the workshop, which I think is called a free. I think that's, that's what that's the term, yeah, yeah, uh, so we are freeloaders.

Help us out. No, no, no, I'm saying like, so we don't really have any pull there. It's not like we're part of the, the system. So getting to workshops in one day was quite a feat to, to actually pull off because you have to, you have to schedule it around the entertainment and you have to get the stuff in there and you have to get everything.

We said, uh, swinging Down Under, who we really didn't get to know last time they were here. I mean, we met them and I completely forgot. To my recollection, I had never met them before. One of the first things they said was, hey, I've never listened to a single episode.

Hey, guys, I've never listened to a single episode, which I love. I know it totally just like took me off. Thanks for swinging down under, even though you won't hear this. I love that he did that.

It was so funny because he was like already drunk, I think. And then you made him put on your panties. He did. If I made him put on my swimsuit.

He was talking about my swimsuit, and then I was like, Put it on, and he didn't back down. And so I'm like, All right, fine, I'm taking it off. And he did. I got so funny.

It wasn't a stellar look for him. I think someone took a picture. Yeah, I don't know. I think she took a picture of it.

I don't know. Now, here's the difference, right, is going in the difference of of somebody who's like we saw ourselves in this couple that was just getting started, you know, a couple that's coming in that's like scared and excited and ready to take on the world with their partner. They're just there with their partner, just like, let's go do it right now you have the other side, which is a takeover. Now this is a Completely different animal.

It's a completely different beast because takeovers create a completely different environment. It's like a mob mentality thing, and that can be really intimidating for the people on the other side who are just getting ready to, so I, I don't want to be too diplomatic about it. The truth of it is, is we've seen so many different groups come through. Not that the groups are bad.

Well, some of the groups are bad. No, they are. I mean, to the point where the hotel was like, hey guys, don't ever fucking come back. Yeah, I was trying to be diplomatic and say that the groups aren't necessarily bad, but being in a group is not our preference.

They act differently in groups. The drama level goes up, the fighting goes up, the drinking goes up. Everything gets amped up, and a lot of these. Takeovers are not full takeovers, right?

So there, there's another part. Sally. Why isn't that Jeff and Karen? Oh, it's always Jeff and Karen.

I thought we were going with Carol. No, maybe Carol sometimes. OK, Jeff and Karen. Then there's Jeff and Karen who are on the quiet side of the pool who decided to try this for once.

And you know, there's a drunk douchebag, Jeffy in the pool trying to ride a unicorn. So the group that came in with the podcasters this time, they're actually good. They're good people, but still within the good, it creates a dynamic of separation. It's just inevitable, not really our preference.

We like to, we like the there's a magic. This is what I call it. It's, there's a magic that happens at the hotel, and I was just talking to someone about it on. Friday, and they said that there's something about being able to just sort of float on over to a couple and start, strike up a conversation.

I said, that's the most beautiful thing about this hotel, because they were saying that there's, they've never been anywhere like this. And I'm like, that's why I love this place. This place is great. And then you take that and you put it in a takeover perspective and people aren't.

Able to do that because there's already groups that are doing stuff together and you're talking in groups. There's, it's not a couple on couple situation. Now, we know because we see these groups come, we see them go. We see the hotel when there is absolutely no groups and everybody's sort of on the same level, same playing field.

If you were there with a group, that's the only way you've ever attended. I would highly recommend it. Try it once by yourself, just with your partner and exploring, and that may be a little too much for some people, but it is its own different type of, of magic. I would just try it.

And if you do find yourself in the situation where you are in a group or there's a takeover there, just mosey, be sure and still find time to mosey on up to other people because that's, that's what the magic of this place is. Do you listen to any dirty podcasts? No. Do you listen to any podcast?

No. Do you know what a podcast is? Yes, my son listens to them all the time. Do you know which ones he listens to?

No. Do you listen to any podcast? No. All right, good to hear.

Swing your podcast. Yes. Do you know which one? I don't know the answers.

OK. Emmy swinger podcast. No listens to swinger podcasts. Can you name any podcast besides Joe Rogan?

No, swinger podcasts. No, uh, I know that the people that own Colette have a podcast. Do you know the name of it? No, I know there are some, but I can't think of them.

Do you know anybody who listens to Dirty Swinger podcasts? Definitely no. Can you name one podcast besides Joe Rogan? Who's Joe Rogan?

We started. I'm ready. Sort of. Hold on, I have to fix this because 00, nobody knows what I just fixed.

I, my head feels like it's gonna explode. Am I bright red? Like I feel like my veins are in my head going. I'm gonna tell you why.

When we were in the hot tub after the workshop, popped, uh, uh, I'm not even sure how many Cialis because I thought we may be in an orgy any, any second now. I gotta be prepared. I gotta be prepared. And then, in fact, it did not turn into an orgy.

So now I'm just left with, I don't know what's happening in my body. You're hi Alice. Oh my God, I'm so high Alice. You're Alice.

They might be the participants for Airtight. Yeah, we got in a discussion about it. Yeah, maybe, who knows? And literally, here's our standards.

They asked. Well, it was good because we had a conversation right before that about sixsomes, and they were saying that you guys don't like sixsomes. Yeah, they knew, they knew they are our listener and they, they knew that uh sometimes we feel like sixes can get confusing. Anyway, I don't want to get off on them because, well, I may.

Actually get off on that later. I don't want to get off topic because I want to see how that goes. I guess that would be Friday, because that's when we'll see them again. I imagine.

Here's what I want to do really quick before I get into the workshop. It was the, the workshop that I can only really describe as um a bunch of dick holes. Oh God, there were some nice people in there. I'm sure there were, but the dick holes ruined it for everybody else.

I've never, and I'm gonna tell you this, I have never tried to alter the time of the workshop in a way to make it end quicker. Yeah, you told me you're like, I'm. Speeding it up. I sped it up.

It's just a bag of dicks in there. Who was bothering you the most? The people that wouldn't shut up, who I hated. I hated them from the moment they stepped in the room.

Hate's a strong word. I just like them immensely with the white hot intensity of 10 suns. Is that better? It's, well, look, here's the thing is when you come to any function that is like a workshop or whatever, it doesn't even matter what it is.

Like, how did you get this far in life? What were they in the 50s, maybe, 40s, 50s? I don't know, whatever. How did you make it this far in life that you don't know how to not shut your pie hole when everyone else is quiet.

When people are talking and when you're trying to conduct, like, how did you get this far in life without someone not saying, hey, Jeff, Karen, what you're doing is unbelievably rude. Well, maybe you should have said something. I was going to on the way out. This is how she exited.

That was interesting, and, and, and we're gonna have to go home and practice. You know what you should practice is shutting the fuck up. You can't say that. No, I know I can't, but I always try and think of people as if they're living in their own world, which is sort of what we want to create anyway, then they're in their own world and maybe they don't realize that everyone's missing.

No, there's a couple of things that really get me going. I'm pretty laid back. Like I'm pretty chill, and I've learned to be really chill. There are a couple things that get me instantly rude behavior and disrespect.

Entitlement. Yeah, that's a big one for you. Entitlement. It doesn't matter, uh, who hears us talking this loud while we're doing meditation.

I'm just gonna have a conversation with my husband. ra ra. Anyway, that happened, but I should have known that this was going to be an off workshop when I started a fire. Oh my God.

I look over, you're doing your meditation, you're putting everybody in a calm state, and this was kind of surreal, right, because everyone's lying there or sitting. Out with their eyes closed and I'm sensing fire next to me. I'm sensing. Were your eyes closed?

Did you smell it? Because I smelled so. My eyes are never closed. 00, really?

No, I'm, I'm, my head's on a swivel because I got to make sure nobody comes through the door. I got to make sure nobody's coming through that other door because, you know, the entitled people, if they come in, they don't know, even if they know you're in the middle of meditation. There was that one guy who walked up in the middle of the meditation or whatever, and he walked in the workshop and he was like, Hi, we're late. I'm like, yeah, you're really late and we're full.

And he's like, OK, great. Can you tell me a little bit more about your class? Well, help out. We're in the middle of it right now and you're late and you missed it.

Oh, it's funny. So, um, so anyway, I'm sitting there and I hear that little sound that, that sound that that fire makes, right? And I look over to my left and the candle, these are big candles, like 2 ft high, 0.5 ft in diameter. They're big candles.

Yeah, like the floor kind. Anyway, I look over there and the flame is shooting up through the top. Some, some guy put. Robe right on top of the candle and I'm like we're all going to die in here.

I get up with my catlike reflexes and jump up because I'm a bombero. See, that means fireman in Spanish. So bum they can look it up. Oh, OK.

And I go over there and I'm looking for something to smother the fire and all that's there is that guy's robe and then I'm like, well, I don't want to burn his robe because then it's gonna get dirty and charcoal. Everything. cloth. Everything I'm looking at is cloth.

I see a bottle of water. Well, as I go to pour the water, I realize what happened was, is that tea candle thing, when that melts, it turns into oil, and that oil spread and caught on fire. It was a grease fire. So I take the water, and as gravity is pulling the water down, my brain goes, never pour water on a grease fire, boom.

And I'm in the middle of the, I'm in my meditation and I'm like, and leave your heart open, and I say leave your shit because it blew up like a bomb, but I think people thought it was part of the show. It was like pyrotechnics are in for that moment we had pyrotechnics. That was great. Did you go to their workshop?

Yeah, she did this thing and they, they light this big fire and there's a sacrifice sacrifice. Speaking of complaining, Malibu strings, I need to come up with a different caption for Malibu strings because we have to. So here's my new caption. Malibu strings.

They come in, wait. Malibu strings, they come in more styles than the one pair that my wife keeps taking photos of. So Malibu strings, love you. Gonna need that stuff.

I just texted him yesterday. I was like, any word on the bikinis? Yes. All right, so really quick, I want to mention people who went to our affiliate and booked through us.

We got such an awesome response. It's just amazing. I, I can't believe it. I can't believe people are booking through us now.

Not only do they book, but now I'm getting to, like, they find us on Instagram and I'm like messaging and it's fun. Yeah, it's cool. So one other thing and then I'm gonna. Stop talking about us.

We got a lot of emails, but this one really made me, uh, it's just such a great email, and this is what he wrote. My wife and I attended your class in November. I had no idea about the Apot. I didn't know it was a thing, and it was a really great experience and has enhanced our 26 year sex life together.

We're not that old, but we've been together since high school, so well done. Had to fly home Thursday and we missed the male session and planned on going to a different resort next trip. But now plan on scheduling our next vacation to hit both of your workshops. The presentation was the perfect blend of humor to unnerve us.

Next trip, I might sit back when you join us in the bed and steal 30 seconds of watching you rubbing my beautiful wife. You maybe just moved to Mexico to enhance your own lives, but we can say you have really improved ours. Thank you and have a Merry Christmas. Now, here's what I want to say about that.

I'm offended that he said Merry Christmas. How dare he assume I'm a Christian? You kill me. I'm literally getting chills over here.

I just got chills again. No, I, it was such a sweet, amazing message. Oh no, it just touched me. I touched them apparently, but uh you got touched back.

We have Fred and Claire on the phone. So we met you guys at the resort, and from what I remember, you guys were just dipping your toes in. You're very, very new and you hadn't shown up yet. Is that right?

That is correct. And you were on the podcast before, yes, we have been, yes. From what I, you haven't done anything when we met you, you hadn't done anything with anybody at that point, correct, we have not done anything. We were new, we're new and never done anything, right?

And there was a little bit of anxiety that was going on, especially with the mister. There were some anxiety issues, and I remember I gave him some advice in the words of fuck up. You didn't want anybody to, uh, I didn't want anybody to ruin your time. I didn't want anybody to, to pounce on the, the experience that, that you guys were, were going to experience there together.

Yeah, and I needed that kick in the ass. So thank you. It worked. You, you are very welcome.

So now here we are a couple of months later. The reason that you reached out to us, we found each other on Instagram. You started, uh, texting Lauren, uh. You told us that you have now in fact dipped your toes.

No, we got soaking wet. You got soaking wet. You jumped, you jumped headfirst, and we don't, we don't know any of the details. So we're, I can't wait to hear the details.

I know. How do you initially meet these people? Do you initially meet these people online? Do you meet them at a bar?

Did you walk down the street and kidnap someone? Yes, we kidnapped, no, no. We met him on Cassidy and we just sent him a quick email and we exchanged kicks and we just started chatting with them. Do they live close by or kind of far away?

Pretty far, 6.5 hours, I think. Yeah, that's way too far. So you're taking 3 hours and you're, you're meeting them there. You're not spending a night somewhere and then meeting them next day.

Correct? Yeah, we were driving to meet them right away. Oh, was that scary? Yeah.

So what are your thoughts like in the car, assuming that you're in a car? What are the things that are going through your mind? I just wanted to get there. I was, he was ready to get there.

I was anxious. I was nervous. I was excited to meet them. I mean, we've been talking to these people for 2 months and, you know, shared pretty intimate moments over kick, you know, live video and things of that sort.

So it, it was an anxiety filled. The anxious, filled, excited, filled 3.5 hours. Was there any backup plan? Like, if this, if we show up and it's just like, oh my God, was there like a, what's the, what's the word?

You know, honestly, we didn't really have like a safe word. We didn't have like a sign like, hey, let's get the fuck out of here now. Like we didn't have any of that. We just went into it like hoping and praying that everything was gonna go OK.

We were fully expecting to have sex with them. I mean, it was, it was. I, uh, I respect that. We fully expected to have sex with him.

Yeah, you're like, I'm going to have sex. I don't know what she was talking about. My head was out the window, my tongue was out, and I'm telling her to go faster. That's all I was doing.

We, we were talking to him over two months. It, it was, I mean, the last we, we shared a lot of pics and videos. It was, it was clearly evident. Everyone was ready.

But still, this is the first time that you guys are going to know, because at that point, you still don't know what it feels like or what, what your body, how your body's going to react to when somebody you love touches somebody else. So is there any of that going on? I think I was probably more concerned about that than he was, to be honest. Well, of course, his head was out the window.

What was your biggest fear? If you had a nightmare scenario, did you paint one in your head? Yes, it was that everything was going good. We met them, we brought them up to our room, and, you know, we start flirting and doing the whole thing.

And then I see him kiss her for the first time and I look at him and I'm like, holy fuck, I can't do this. Like I say it out loud physically and I don't realize that I'm saying it. Like it was just that was my nightmare. Who's more like that in the relationship?

Who's more carefree and who's more worrywart? Typically, I think I'm the more carefree one. Yeah, I'm, I'm a nightmare. Yeah.

Yeah But I mean, we've been together for 14 years, so I'm like, how am I really going to be, how can I be OK with him like kissing another woman? So, all right, so where do you guys meet? Do you go to a bar? Do you go straight to a sex club?

What happened? So we met in our hotel lobby. Yes. All right, stop.

So you see each other for the first time. So hold on, no, back up. We, we got to the hotel, we checked in. We had what, maybe a couple hours, 2 hours, so I was able to shower and like get myself ready, like, so we have what, maybe 2.5 hours I think beforehand.

Oh, that's when the heart starts pounding, right? That's, yeah. Can I ask you how many times you changed clothes? Well, I think I knew what I was wearing that night, but I did bring out quite a few.

That's my girl. That's my girl. Only women get that. All right, so now in my brain, you're taking an elevator down to the lobby.

Oh my God. Do they, do they contact you and say we're here? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, elevator doors, they closed.

No no no no no no no no no. How many floors were you up? Do you remember? I hope it was like 87.

We were like 16 floors up. Yeah, 16 floors. That's pretty good. So it's 2321.

The doors open. Oh my God, can you see them as soon as the doors open? No, no, no, we had to walk down a hallway and you see each other. Said hi.

Um, I mean, we, we. exactly who we were talking to for the past few months. So we sat down in the hotel lobby and ordered a couple of drinks. What's this bar look like, dumpy or is it nice?

No, it's actually nice. It was nice on a couch. It was open hotel lobby and we ordered a drink. They had a couple of high tops.

They had a couple of like couch-like chairs. It was pretty nice. Sat and sipped and talked for a while. And was it more difficult in person?

Did it pick? Right up where it left off. No, it wasn't. It was pretty organic.

It was great. They, you know, talked about their night and, you know, originally what they came in for and told us how that went, and then we finished our drinks, and I think it was the mister on my side that said, Hey, you want to go up and have a free drink? If you guys want to sniff some brandy, I happen to have some in my room. Would you like to go back to our suite?

I didn't want to pay like $10 a drink. Now I get it. Before we go back to your room, what does your room look like? So we had a room with and then like a separate sitting room in the hotel.

It was like a nice, very sexy. Again, I'm thinking something on the 87th floor overlooking the twinkling lights of the city. In, in my mind, there was a butler and you retired him for the night. You said, Jeeves, you may go home.

We will not be needing your service. We don't need you, Jeeves. You can go home. How are your nerves at this point?

My heart's beating out of my chest, to be honest with you. I, I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know what was going to happen. I didn't know how I was going to feel.

So, I mean, it was just, it was nerves the whole way. I mean excited nerves, not bad nerves, excited. Was anyone hard yet or wet? Why are my questions funny?

She squirted on the way up to the elevator. She soiled the entire elevator shaft. Jeeves, we're gonna need you back in version two. Jeeves gets involved.

That's the second night in Jeeves. She's airtight. OK, so you play a game, loosen everything up. Who makes first contact?

Each spouses opposite to the other with the other spouse. So yeah, so I was sitting next to Adam and he was sitting next to Lizzie. Does somebody get a card or something that they have to dare or something that they have to do? Is that what initiated it?

I think the first one was that Claire had to give Adam a blowjob. Wow, that's, that's quite a first step. OK, let's start the game. My card says I take you anally.

I'm pretty sure at that moment, Fred got up and walked out of the room to go use the bathroom, and I'm like, Hey babe, I was dared to suck this other guy's cock. So are you OK with that? And what was your answer? He yelled from literally from the bathroom, Hey, it's cool.

Go ahead, go for it, letting Jeeves out. Are you afraid that Lizzie's going to freak out? What if Lizzie freaks out, takes a chair, throws it out the 87th floor window? At that point, I guess I'd be screwed, right?

But I mean, like they, they had actually had a little bit more experience before meeting us. So, so Lizzie's a whore. We've established that not her first rodeo. Fred, do you attack Lizzie?

Or does Lizzie attack you? The first card to her was to give me a blowjob. Yes, yes. He at that point, they still hadn't touched, I don't think.

Are you both now sucking at the same time or did it at 32nd intervals? I was done by the time he was getting his. At first, it was a little weird. Weird.

I, I, my first reaction was, holy shit, some other chick is sucking his cock. Like I kind of want to punch her in the face right now. But I let it, I let it happen. And it, it was, it was good.

But what happened at first? Because you said a little bit. So is there a feel, is there a fight, a feeling of jealousy that you're trying to push down a little bit? I feel like my body did kind of try to do like the fight or fight kind of thing for a moment, but so there was a possibility for a moment that you were like.

You know what, we're fucking out of here. We're out of here. Yeah, I mean, I, at first I think I did, but then I, I remembered the past two months of chatting with them and him and I decided that it's now or never. Like we're either going to just do this and figure it out, or we're going to say, you know what, this was a waste of time.

Sorry to waste your time, but do they already know where we are having sex with this couple? There was a message on Kick like, yeah, we bought the condo. We kind of paired off, made out. It organically happened though.

It was like, I mean, it, it was so smooth and it wasn't forced and it was just, it wasn't actually weird either. Yeah, it wasn't weird. I, I, I was afraid of it, to be honest with you, but Once it started happening, it was, it just, it, it flowed. What did you take out of it?

My favorite part of the, the whole time that we were there was having breakfast with Fred the next morning after our first experience and just kind of like that communication that you get from this lifestyle is like a whole another level. He booked Desire for the first time back in November of 2017. Since then, so about a year now, our communication has been like Through the roof. I mean, we've talked about stuff that we've never talked about in 14 years of being together.

We've did things that we could never have imagined that we would ever do before. So after they leave, are you horned up for like the next 8 hours? I would say the next 18 days or something. I don't know.

I can't turn this one off over here. I mean, it's been pretty insane just open up a Pandora's box, if you pardon the pun. You obviously feel like you've made the right decision. Is there something that sticks?

Out that was extra special. We don't want to just like fuck someone that we just met yesterday, right? We, I think, to be honest with you, and a lot of people might be pissed off if I say this, but we're not going to be belt notchers. Nobody listens to our podcast, so not a lot of people are going to get angry.

We've made the decision that we want to get to know a couple for a while before we actually meet them, and we're not just going to be like, hey, we like to fuck other people. OK, let's meet the next day. Like we're not like that unless we're at desire, we might do that. Yeah, yeah, we, we.

So there's a lot of people who are afraid to take that 3 hour drive or whatever it is. What would you say to yourself 6 months ago or, or a year ago, who was just thinking about doing it? You gotta know if it's right, and if you're gonna do it, you just gotta go do it. And if you like it, you like it.

If you don't, you don't. I mean, that's, that's where our mindset was. It was just like, OK, well, we've been talking about this for how long now? Like, we just kind of have to do it to know if we're gonna like it.

It means There's a lot that you wanted to share it with us. We can't wait to see you guys again. Who knows? Maybe there's someone out there that were you two a year ago and you could have just given them a little something.

That's why we wanted to do this, to, you know, let the newbies like us know that it's kind of, it's, it's OK to step out of your comfort zone for a moment and just to see if you like it. Also cool that an experienced couple was able to take us in and just split us off as newbies. And took the time and we really had a great time. And then to you guys too, obviously, because when we came to Desire last June, you were really the ones that kind of pushed us in a good way, let me say that.

So that begs the question then, are you coming back to Desire? Yeah, we will be back to Desire in June of 19. I know that. You know how I know that because you two booked through us.

Thank you guys so much for that. We're, we're really. Excited to come back to Desire in 2019. We feel like by that we want to do your class.

We thought your class was costing money last time. Yeah. Now with your booking through us, you get VIP seating and free reservations to our workshop along with many other gifts and tokens of appreciation. Thank you so much.

We're so happy that, I mean, you sound like a different man, doesn't he? Yeah. I'm, I'm not just shitting you. Like I can hear the, the confidence, the happiness, the sexiness.

It's, it's just coming all the way through, and I'm so happy that you guys reached out and thank you for sharing. Can't wait to see you again and make sure you keep getting out there and keep doing whatever it is that you guys are doing because it's working, obviously. You sound great. We will see you soon.

Make sure to keep in touch, OK? Awesome. Thank you guys. Bye bye.

All right, I am here with what room are you in? 3. What room are you in? 7.

All right, room 3. Do you remember what your first experience in this lifestyle world was? Let me think, babe. I might have had.

How can, how can you forget your first experience. So it was my first experience with a woman and I was a bit timid, but she kind of took control and we went for it. It was great. How do you compare something like that happening then to that exact situation if it were to happen right now?

That's a great question. I'm a great. Human being she takes control now. There has been somewhat of a role reversal before in our relationship, she was a lot more of the alpha female, a lot more taking control and kind of guiding, and in the last six months or so I've kind of taken over that role, and I think it works really well.

We sort of share that role. When you were first getting into this, were you thinking, is this for us? Do you feel like you've made the right decision? Yeah, no, I think everybody should ask us.

I mean it's a communication that you should have with your with your significant other and we've talked a lot about it and and I think that our decision, uh, and I still feel like we're very virgin in the lifestyle, but you guys look like seasoned professionals. so I think, I think one thing to mention is it has enhanced our sex life and our marriage like a millionfold. Room 7, do you remember your first experience? I do remember my first lifestyle.

Is it a pleasant memory? Yes, it was it was a very pleasant memory, but it also elicited a lot of conversation on and a lot of communication over what we were OK with and what we were OK with and the boundaries that were set moving forward as far as like what what we wanted as a couple out of. I feel like your first experience is always. Fantastic because it's, it's how you learn and it's how you grow and it doesn't matter what happens that that's just your starting point.

So you know, even if you feel like that in that moment it all went wrong, it didn't because it all it did, yes, all it did was open up communication and let you know what you wanted more of in the future. All right, so what have we learned? Well, we met that new couple who reminds us of us. Yes, and I learned that innocent looking people are not always giant whore bags.

Takeover madness. Yeah, and takeovers can be pretty intense for some people. So, you know, make sure you know what you're getting into if you're going there, at least during a takeover, or if you've been there during a takeover. Another one of those things where you don't want to pass up that opportunity to experience the magic of desire.

By yourself. I also learned do not use water. I repeat, do not use water to put out a grease fire. I tested it for everyone.

Does not work, just makes matters worse. What else? The letter from our listener. Reach out to us because we really do love to hear from you.

Just don't make it too wordy. And listening to Claire and Fred from literally meeting them at the resort with butterflies in her stomachs to giving a butler oral sex on the eighty-seventh floor, it was a journey that I love to watch unfold. The thing is, is we heal people. OK, I do want to say that the.

Lifestyle is a journey, it's an evolution, so communication is one of the best things that comes out of it. Enjoy your life, right? Just try stuff, be like Fred and Claire, go out there, stick your head out a car window, get that wind in your hair, and go have sex with people 6 hours away. So thanks again to the people who booked through us and to the people who brought us all of that Nicorette.

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